Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

DIB:

I understand there is a new DC17 launched recently.  Is this the one on HSN?

Or is HSN selling the earlier model?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

DIB:

I have my answer.  It's the earlier model DC17 Absolute Animal on HSN for $449.  Good price.  But I've seen the latest dyson DC17 model available for $499 before discounts. 

It will be very difficult for dyson from a practical point of view and business perspective to keep two different systems of filter maintenance for its venue of models.  My sense is that dyson will gradually phase out the 6 month filter cleaning routine for 3 months.  It's worth asking dyson rather than second quessing HSN. 

I thoroughly and wholeheartedly agree with your premise that the reason for the change is directly related to the lawsuits.  My sense is too that people can't remember to do the filter maintenance on 6 month intervals.  [Do you remember to change your Fridge water filter every 6 months? Or does it creep back to 8-10 months?].  3 months is easier for users to remember and follow.  If it slips a tad, 5-6 months is much better than 12 months.

I recall the last HSN dyson show I viewed [DC14 Animal], the filter maintenance was cited by Dyson Dave as 3, 4, 5, 6 months. 

Carmine D.

Carmine D

I agree with you on the filter maintenance and users should follow the guide.  Some don't always and wonder whay they have problems.  One of the reasons I don't wash my filters on my Dyson's is I don't use them the same amount as a normal user does!  Hence I get longer use out of them generally speaking!! 

DC18

The 3 months filter washing interval is going back tot he days of the DC01 and DC02 which you had to repalce the filters every 3 months or sooner!  Now the filters are washable on later models!  Suppose the 3 months makes sense! 

DC18

BTW, talking about HSN, I noted that the dyson DC17 shared the spot with the HOOVER Cordless Impulse Hard Floor scrubber and suction cleaner for $90.  25-30 minute operation time per charge.  Nice product. 

And, also the Dirt Devil Kruz cordless hard floor cleaner stick vacuum for $90.  My sense was the DD Kruz was the biggest hit of all for the HSN staffer.  Note too that as a barefloor cleaner, it does not use oval hair brushes.  3 wheels for maneuverability and a straight brush strip. 25-30 minute operation time per charge.

Carmine D.

Re: pre-filter maintenance.

My very old Fantom Fury has a filter change indicator.  Stick one of these things on all Dyson uprights and canister vacuums and perhaps many problems will be solved.        DIB

Dyson vacuum cleaners have had indicators in the past - the ConstantMAX commercial cleaner (based on the DC04) :-



I seem to recall that Dyson had a patent filed for this indicator.

Not sure why they didn't include this on their domestic cleaners. Perhaps they didn't want to highlight the fact that they had filters that needed maintenance?

Or better still, a self-cleaning pre-motor filter.  Now, that's innovative and engineer worthy. 

Carmine D.

Thanks Moose, I too have seen this patent.  It is plausible early on that Dyson wanted people to believe his vacuums did not use a filter of any sorts, but who knows.

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Carmine.  No one has been able to engineer a filter that cleans 100%.  Electrolux recently failed at it.  Besides James Dyson is a cyclonic man, not a filter man.

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In my opinion, Dyson should make available a cheap disposable liner that sits on top of the pre-filter, certainly the DC24 could benefit.  Perhaps sell it as an accessory; this gives people the option and answers critics who say Dyson makes one slave (DC24) to pre-filter cleaning.  Having disposables would answer these criticisms or complaints.  The convenience of having a pre-filter sitting at waist height (on uprights) or so makes getting to the pre-filter compartment easy and is another advantage Dyson would have over his competition.  Small advantages add up.        DIB

I'll check the rest of this thread tomorrow (haven't been here in a while), but I did want to say that the name "Dyson Dave" is somewhat of a misnomer; "Dyson Dave" is the HSN employee paid to demonstrate Dyson and is in no way affiliated with Dyson Inc.

-MH