Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

First upright from Miele

29 February 2008 This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.  It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and  “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest  of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following  numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use  an upright model. Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009 Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

Miele may have never been known for an upright, but they have never been known for a BAD upright either.  The Powerhouse models, while not a dedicated Miele design (Panasonic if I recall?), are still good vacuums that are fairly lightweight, reminiscent of the old Sharp uprights.  And their Universal Upright, when equipped with a power nozzle, is a fantastic cleaner, only downside is no brush on/off switch.  Definitely gives cleaners of similar size a run for the money, like Oreck...

I haven't yet seen one in person so I can't tell, but I do agree that the S7 appears to be a bit on the large/heavy side, like the Radiance/Synergy which weigh a TON.  Hopefully, unlike those, the handle grip won't snap off.

CarmineD wrote:
Hi Carmine,as you already observed this trend has been going on for 4 years now, many insiders that you and I know have said this same thing,there is no distinct design differences, bagless,bagged,uprights,canisters,all little clones of each other.

The only companies that have held true to their tradition are AERUS/ELECTROLUX, KIRBY, AND REXAIR/RAINBOW, I would even throw in TRISTAR/COMPACT,Even a few imports have held true also,such as HENRY,SEBO IN THEIR UPRIGHTS[OTHER THAN THE FELIX] which the jurys still out on,The germans have seemed to sell out bosch/miele are almost the same,And the chinese stuff looks like they use the same set of blueprints and specs,

MOLE

mole wrote:

Hi MOLE:

God Love these companies and their managements for keeping them unique and classic.  If I were in the vacuum business still, or getting into it now, I would specialize in these vacuum brands exclusively and even perhaps Venson's pick: The Nilfisk not to mention my own fave: Lindhaus.  Might even consider Dave's ORECKS for the older crowd.  And thumb my nose at all the others for giving in and going along to get along. 

Be well vacuum cleaner Old Timer.

Carmine D.

You know Carmine,I would also say that lindhaus[ although shunned by most vacuum experts because of name reconition] .Make possibly the best vacuum in the world.

They are sold and serviced by true vacuum guy's that know the business,they stay small and have a very loyal following.Not to mention they have not folded into the bagless scheme..............

MOLE

mole wrote:
The Simplicity Tandem Motor system, is in my opinion, pretty revolutionary.

mole wrote:

Hi MOLE:

It's not a household vacuum brand name that many are familiar with.  Not sure you remember this incident.  Not too long ago,  a self-proclaimed vacuum insider/expert posted on a vacuum Forum that Lindhaus vacuums are made in Germany.  I believe at the time the gentleman had been in and around the vacuum business/industry for almost 20 years, if not even longer.      

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine,

Despite the name -- I believe Lindhaus is an Italian company.  They are indeed unique.  Both upright and canister power nozzle brush rolls are easily removable and there are plenty of tool options.  There is also a "dam" option for some power nozzles that allows you to spread and work in dry carpet cleaner easily. 

The Lindhaus USA website seems a bit limited but check out the following link to Italy: http://www.lindhaus.it/

Best,

Venson

Lucky1 wrote:

Hello Lucky1:

Agreed.  Lindhaus has the two motor system too: Check out the Diamante upright on the Web Site that Venson was gracious enough to post.  And the "hottie" standing along side the Valzer!  Now that's a piece of equipment that would make any man want to vacuum daily!

Carmine D.

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson:

Thanks for the Web Site.  You are correct: Definitely Italy, despite the name.  MOLE would probably agree with me that when it comes to vacuum filtration Lindhaus beats them all: Including the Mighty Miele.  Excellent vacuums for those allergic/sensitive to dirt/dust.  As they say in the industry: Born to last.

Carmine D.

Comparing the Lindhaus HF6 canister to the Miele Silver Moon 500 series, leaves little in comparison. The Miele wins out, hands down every time. I own them both and know from personal experience the Lindhaus canister is bulky and clumsy. The hose attachement clamp flips up at times while using it and the hose falls off. The canister even tips over and snags on furniture. And no auto cord rewinder to boot.

I've had bad luck with the HF6 from the motor brushes sticking to the exhaust filter retainer clip breaking off. The HEPA filter is thinner and smaller than Miele's and does not seal well, allowing exhaust air to bypass the filter. Very poor design! The canister clips that attach the motor housing to the can fall off all the time.  I've even had problems with the vacuum switch/bag full indicator light malfunctioning. Noise levels are "considerably" louder as well. 

I was happy to see that Lindhaus finally upgraded and made available a high efficiency filtrete type bag. But even with the upgraded bags, the suction and airflow are nowhere near what the Miele produces. I consider the HF6 a disaster for Lindhaus since their other machines are so nice. It does make a nice shop vac and have left it in the garage. That's about all it's good for.

Can't wait for the new Miele S7 uprights to appear. My local dealer is expecting them the middle of October.

Bruce