Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

First upright from Miele

29 February 2008 This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.  It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and  “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest  of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following  numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use  an upright model. Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009 Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

HARDSELL wrote:
I tested every Miele Canister he sells.  They are all excellent, but I just didn't want a canister (maybe even a little better than my new upright).   I tested the Royals, which are just too heavy.  I tested the Sebo canister and upright (loved them, but the Miele outperformed them in every test except the edging).  I also tested a Filter Queen that he had in, but does not normally carry.  I felt that it was too awkward to use and clean out.  I tested an Oreck, but it was no comparison to the Sebo's or Miele's.  It just didn't clean as well.  I also tested another brand that he carries, but I can't remember what it was called.  I'll check on that the next time I'm in there to pick up bags. 
BTW, I did change out the bag today after vaccuming up the entire house.  It still wasn't full, but I followed the advice of Venson.  The vacuum does have overheating protection, but why take the chance.

catlady wrote:

Hello catlady:

Thanks for posting the warranty info.  Miele sets the warranty guidelines.  The vacuum store selling the product applies it.  If the store wants to warrant the product beyond Miele's period, that is the store's personal and professional business.  An advantage of buying from an independent vacuum store owner/operator vice a big box retailer.

Carmine D.

Hi 'Catlady',

What type of brushroll / agitator is fitted to the New Miele Upright?

Is it a simple brushroll, or does it have beater bars?

Is the brushroll metal or plastic?

(Thanks in advance).

As I understand it, this new machine will use the same or very similar brush to the current SEB 236 brushroll.  It also apperantly uses the Vortex motor, and the 500 series (not the 5000) type HEPA filter.

Vacuuman wrote:

Vacuuman,

I believe you are correct.  I was told that the brush is the same as the SEB236 and the vacuum does use a vortex motor.  The HEPA filter is the same that they use in the canisters, but I apologize for my ignorance, I'm not sure if that is the 500 series.

Well, the Miele rep brought in the new upright for us to try and look at today.  We saw the lower of the 2 models (suction dial instead of electronic) in the yellow color.  It does in fact use the SEB 236 brushroll and the 500 series HEPA filter.  The bottom plate is steel and the 2 front wheels are swivel casters which make the turning very easy.  The wheels have a odd setup for the handle release, and the easy way to release it is to tilt the machine back a little and then press the pedal.  The machine was also designed so that you can step on the handle release pedal while the machine is being used and the nozzle will lift up and go over things like the edges of rugs, or the cord without chewing it.  The bag is HUGE and fills from the top (as I suspected) much like how the bags attach in the universal upright, but at the top rather than the bottom.

Hi Reggie

comparing the miele and riccar top end uprights,which has the edge. both in price and performance,,,,,,,,,,,

thanks

MOLE

Well, that is a difficult one to answer.  The Miele rep was asking the same question, as he knows I have the top end Radiance.  The machines are different enough that they both have strong advantages, and disadvantages compared to each other.  To start with carpet cleaning: Both machines clean very well, but I give the Radiance the edge here.  This is because the Riccar uses the Tandem Air (more power) and the brushroll on the Riccar is more aggressive and agitates more, I have the same opinion of the 2 brushrolls in their respective canister/central vac power nozzles as well.  For tool cleaning the Miele was much better, although I still feel that the Riccar's tool power is enough for the average attachment cleaning and does power a turbo nozzle well.  The Miele also steers very nicely and smoothly, this is helped by the swivel wheels on the front.  And the Miele was also much quieter than the Riccar, but lightly heavier.  As for durability, I have no idea how the Miele will hold up.  I would guess that since Miele engineered it, it will do well, but only time will let us know.  The MSRP, as of now is going to be $799 for the top end Miele, and $599 for the lower model.  The Radiance has a MSRP of $1399 for the Premium, and $1099 ( I think, but can't be sure, so don't quote me) for the red one.  I think personally, i will stick with using my Riadiance at home, but because I do still feel the Tandem Air setup gives better carpet cleaning.  And as for what I feel will sell better and be more liked by the customers, I have no idea yet.

Thanks Reggie

I think from what you said both machines will sell very well. Miele priced the machine with in reason [worthy of the price].Its very encourageing to see that MIELE thought the machine out before releasing it to the public,

Dont need another piece of ART work just something that gets the job done,

wonder if it took 500 engineers to develop it

MOLE

mole wrote:

Hi MOLE:

As we know, although not always said, Miele has a very successful line of large household appliances [washers, dryers, ovens] and small [coffee makers] for many years.  With an excellent brand name and reputation.  Abroad and in the USA.

Carmine D.