Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

First upright from Miele

29 February 2008 This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.  It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and  “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest  of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following  numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use  an upright model. Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009 Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

HARDSELL wrote:

Knowledege itself is useless, unless and until it is applied correctly and properly, through one's opinions.  All MH's, and others' vacuum knowledge, is of little benefit to others unless they share here with us by way of opinions. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

You already know that opinions are like part of our anatomy.  My opinion is that a $700 vac should have a longer warranty.  Fact is it doesn't. Which will go farther in getting a repair? My opinion or a written warranty.  Before you start with your opinions I know that there are exceptions.

The dealer repaired catlady's vacuum incorrectly by using his opinion on how to replace the hose.  Knowledge could easily have prevented all her problems.

Oh yeah.  Opinions can and often are biased.  Facts and knowledge are not.

The fact is that I said here several times that it is my opinion the MIELE S7 is not the best suited vacuum for this user.  My opinion is based on the facts and circumstances of her household cleaning needs and experiences with her MIELE and the dealer and company up to now.  As I also said, I hope my opinion now is wrong and does prove a fact later.

Carmine D.

The fact is too MIELE replaced the customer's MIELE with a brand new one that is noew $150 more than the price of the original 10 months ago. 

The fact is for 107 years MIELE uses the slogan IMMER BESSER, an opinion then that many today, you and MOLE excluded [always exceptions] believe to be fact.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Hi Carmine,

Can you please explain this for me?  How is the Miele S7 not a good vacuum for Catlady, or anyone who has pets?  From my experiences, and considering it's just a Capricorn and a 236 power nozzle in an upright body, it's a very versatile, capable machine on both carpets and bare floors.  The stretch hose (even this slightly shorter hose on current production models; I have not seen the red one with the long hose) is also more than adequate for above-floor dusting. 

Worst case, in a home with mostly bare floors, you could use the Parquet Twister bare floor tool with the wands.  But when I used one, I found that with the brushroll turned off it's actually not bad at removing surface litter.  Definitely better than other uprights with a brushroll on/off feature.

-MH

Motorhead wrote:

Sure, and I did already here for her benefit.  It's probably part of the 'filler' you did not want to read.

First, I said the S7 Salsa is not the best suited for her needs.  I never said it was not good.  Little different.

Second, at the bag usage rate already discussed here by the user, she will, at the current cost of bags, pay about $100 a year for disposable bags.  By her own admission, she hopes to have the vacuum 8-10 years.  Do the math for bags over the life of the vacuum.

Third, add to the cost for normal maintenance items and repairs needed.  MOLE was kind enough to elaborate.  You did too.  What is the cost of a cord set from an authorized MIELE dealer for the S7?  $130.  Indies like MOLE can do it cheaper, I'll bet.  Be that as it may, the cost of the purchase of the S7 [$600] will more than double/triple over the useful life.  Usually, consumer goods depreciate/get amortize over their useful life.   Not in this particular case.

BTW, my opinion is not the only.  Our forum moderator says the same.  He would never have recommended this S7as a choice.  [Probably more filler you missed].

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

So, what would you recommend?

HARDSELL wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
Declaring "MH's or others" knowledge (of facts) to be an opinion is your opinion and a oxymoron.

I believe MH through out some facts (aka knowledge) that were not known here otherwise.

DIB

HARDSELL wrote:

Not a MIELE S7.  What I recommend is irrelevant at this point and a moot point.  But if you want to know read the rest of the thread.  I addressed it already.  If the user is happy with the choice of the Salsa and wants to keep it, that's her prerogative and not mine.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Actually, DIB on these points I agree with you.  Now if you can end my confusion on the clutchless/brushroll saga of  DC27, I would be much obliged.

Carmine D.