Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

First upright from Miele

29 February 2008 This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.  It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and  “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest  of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following  numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use  an upright model. Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009 Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

Motorhead wrote:
Hey Motorhead,

How are you? Thanks for the heads-up about the S7 cord. I remember telling myself how simple things were when I got my Tango home and set it up with nary a screw or screwdriver to bother with.

The S7 automatic setting threw me a little as I have been trying to logic the reason for the speed decrease. Motor speed is reduced if hose suction is restricted - such as when you attach the crevice tool. In my Kenmore Iridium, the exact opposite happens. The motor runs at at mid-speed when set on automatic. An internal dust sensor ups the motor speed when it senses a significant amount of dirt and dust and lets the speed drop once the sensor is not finding anything. Motor speed also elevates if airflow is restricted. I use the S7 both ways but do leave it on the automatic setting most of the time.

As for the repair issue -- I can appreciate how confusing things might have been for the shop as it takes a really close look to learn that the hose cuff does come off the little swivel neck. What surprised me is that no one thought to ask. The call would have been toll free. It worked out great that Melanie got a whole new vacuum but the problem could have been simply solved by just thinking a little.

MOLE has mentioned some potential trouble spots and the guy I'd been speaking with mentioned possible trouble due to users over-turning the two screws on the cover for the clean-out port. Anything else besides the cord to pay attention to?

Best,

Venson

Hi Hardsell,

Correct.  Diamond Dealer Status involves maintaining a yearly sales figure of $100,000 or more.  Which, to the uninitiated like me, I don't see how it can be attainable, but stranger things happen!

Hi Venson,

Thanks, it's good to be back!  Interesting about the speed increase on the Iridium, I'm trying to think of other cleaners whose automatic settings work opposite of the S7.  Miele canisters if I recall are the same way; any restriction in airflow and the motor speeds up.  I may be wrong but I'm almost convinced the speed decrease is because of the stretch hose.  I also heard about the vulnerability of the cleanout port; I saw this on the Bolero as well.  It seemed almost too easy to overturn the latch screws, thinking they loosen normally, and break the cover.  I wonder if Miele will correct this potential weakness in the future?   Should be interesting to see.

-MH

Motorhead wrote:

Hope it's not an April Fool's ploy and you'll soon be gone!  Good to hear from you here again.  Glad you are impressed with your MIELE Bolero.  IMMER BESSER!

Carmine D.

Motorhead wrote:

According to MIELE, one million new vacuums are shipped from the plant in Germany every year. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Knowledege itself is useless, unless and until it is applied correctly and properly, through one's opinions.  All MH's, and others' vacuum knowledge, is of little benefit to others unless they share here with us by way of opinions. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

You already know that opinions are like part of our anatomy.  My opinion is that a $700 vac should have a longer warranty.  Fact is it doesn't. Which will go farther in getting a repair? My opinion or a written warranty.  Before you start with your opinions I know that there are exceptions.

The dealer repaired catlady's vacuum incorrectly by using his opinion on how to replace the hose.  Knowledge could easily have prevented all her problems.

Oh yeah.  Opinions can and often are biased.  Facts and knowledge are not.

The fact is that I said here several times that it is my opinion the MIELE S7 is not the best suited vacuum for this user.  My opinion is based on the facts and circumstances of her household cleaning needs and experiences with her MIELE and the dealer and company up to now.  As I also said, I hope my opinion now is wrong and does prove a fact later.

Carmine D.

The fact is too MIELE replaced the customer's MIELE with a brand new one that is noew $150 more than the price of the original 10 months ago. 

The fact is for 107 years MIELE uses the slogan IMMER BESSER, an opinion then that many today, you and MOLE excluded [always exceptions] believe to be fact.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Hi Carmine,

Can you please explain this for me?  How is the Miele S7 not a good vacuum for Catlady, or anyone who has pets?  From my experiences, and considering it's just a Capricorn and a 236 power nozzle in an upright body, it's a very versatile, capable machine on both carpets and bare floors.  The stretch hose (even this slightly shorter hose on current production models; I have not seen the red one with the long hose) is also more than adequate for above-floor dusting. 

Worst case, in a home with mostly bare floors, you could use the Parquet Twister bare floor tool with the wands.  But when I used one, I found that with the brushroll turned off it's actually not bad at removing surface litter.  Definitely better than other uprights with a brushroll on/off feature.

-MH