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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Original Message   Mar 23, 2008 10:12 pm

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First upright from Miele

29 February 2008

This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.

 It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and

 “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest

 of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following

 numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use

 an upright model.

Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com

Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009

Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

This message was modified Mar 20, 2009 by Trilobite
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Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #376   Mar 22, 2009 7:39 pm
Dear Melanie aka CatLady,

Lindhaus USA is a small company. The parent company is Rotafil of Italy. Lindhaus has a focus of vacuum cleaners and just recently hard floor washers/carpet extractor combos that look and push like upright vacuums. Lindhaus was chosen as the supplier of vacuums for the cleanup in DC after 911 for performance, ease of use, and filtration. The newer Lindhaus models are called the Diamante (residential) and the Dynamic (commercial) They look identical in pictures. The 15 with it's little 'L' projection seems like it would be handy for under toe-kicks, etc. I do not know about the cost of Lindhaus bags. They appear smaller, however, they are paper and biodegradeable. Lindhaus adheres to a standard of (I'm going from memory of a conversation I had with Al Carpenter years ago.) of about 95% effectiveness down to 5 microns in the bag, and leaves the rest up to the filter. The clean air filter really is sufficient for all but the very worst allergy sufferers. If Al remembers me at all it would be as the Electrolux man from Ft. Wayne, IN. I inquired as to whether they had any positions open as a rep, but they really don't have reps, people call them. In any case, the people there were all pleasant and helpful.

Here is a link  to a quick video demo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3-uoh5LmrQ  You can get accessory 'shoes' for hardwood, and other hard surface floors. I have seen Diamante for nearl 1000.00 and Dynamic for right at $600.00 the Lindhaus website does not post prices and the two machines are so close in appearance the prices may have been mixed up.

I hope, Melanie, that someone steps up to the plate and helps you. No, a vacuum cleaner is not on the order of people starving, or being homeless, but life is full of enough aggravations. It just is not supposed to be this difficult to get a fast stress free resolution on something this simple. Miele has abused your trust, period. You paid a premium price for a premium product and were promised fast hassle free service if you ever needed it. Immer Besser and all that. Well, they got your money, now what?

I hope with all my heart that Al seizes this opportunity, sends you a Diamante, that you absolutelly love it and he says, "Hon, just send us your expensive piece of crap and write us a good review, and call it even."

And if anyone reading this thinks I'm being a bit harsh, remember the facts:

Melanie's expensive purchase failed under warranty, authorized repair center caused damage due to impatience/incompetence, and from minute one, Miele customer service, Miele rep, and Miele dealer have all had complete authority to just exchange the vacuum and send the customer on her way to sing their praises. Done. Finished. Over. Resolved. with best possible outcome, customer ecstatic and telling everyone. These are the opportunies that make or break a company. These are the  'vampire stories', because they just never die, and they get worse with each retelling. The smart person/company makes sure they are driving the stake, not getting the sharp end of it.

Trebor

Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #377   Mar 23, 2009 7:42 am
Melanie,

One more option to consider. I sold Lux central vacs to customers who installed them in their existing homes, and then moved them to a new home they had built. The tubing is there for a buyer, to use or not as they choose. You may e-mail me privately for questions about number of inlets, etc. if you wish. Go with MD, AMERICAN MADE, easy to change bags/filters, quieter by far.

Trebor

catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #378   Mar 23, 2009 9:18 am
I spoke with Jim at Miele this morning and explained how the Vac Shop wanted to do the repair on my vacuum.  I asked if this was acceptable to Miele and he said he could see it from both of our prospectives, but agrees that with this being a new machine it should be repaired properly by replacing the part.  At that point in time I did ask if they could replace the vacuum since it was a test model and I've had 2 hose issues and the repair because the vacuum would not lean down all of the way.  I didn't even mention the indicator not working properly.  He told me that he did request a replacement for me a couple of weeks ago but it was not authorized.  He said if he had it his way I would already have a new vacuum, but it is out of his control.  He then told me that he will have his Supervisor call me (Sally) if anything else to consol me about this.  Hmmm, I don't think there's going to be  much consoling at this point in time.  I'm pretty close to ripping into someone, but I know that won't get me anywhere. 

I'll update after I speak with Sally.

Melanie

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #379   Mar 23, 2009 9:56 am
Hi Melanie,

I was under the impression that the shop could do the back panel replacement. Have they refused flat out or are they hemming and hawing?

Tell them that is what you want and what you are due as this is their mess. It should be possible to handle this as before. Either, keep the cleaner at home and use it until the part comes in or insist upon a comparable loaner machine if they say they need to keep yours. Also, get their repair schedule (estimated time for the part to arrive plus time estimated to complete replacement.)

Refuse the "melting" offer and insist on a part replacement.

Venson
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #380   Mar 23, 2009 10:07 am
Venson wrote:
Hi Melanie,

I was under the impression that the shop could do the back panel replacement. Have they refused flat out or are they hemming and hawing?

There should be no need for a lot of fussing about this with these people or getting yourself upset. Tell them that a replacement is what you want and what you are due as this is their mess. Had they been a little more observant and analytical the problem would never have happened.

It should be possible to handle this as before. Either, keep the cleaner at home and use it until the part comes in or insist upon a comparable loaner machine if they say they need to keep yours. Also, get their repair schedule (estimated time for the part to arrive plus time estimated to complete replacement.)

Refuse the "plastic melting" offer and insist on a part replacement. Also suggest that they request an instruction sheet from Miele along with the replacement part just to be sure things are easier to accomplish.

Venson
mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #381   Mar 23, 2009 10:09 am
catlady wrote:
I spoke with Jim at Miele this morning and explained how the Vac Shop wanted to do the repair on my vacuum.  I asked if this was acceptable to Miele and he said he could see it from both of our prospectives, but agrees that with this being a new machine it should be repaired properly by replacing the part.  At that point in time I did ask if they could replace the vacuum since it was a test model and I've had 2 hose issues and the repair because the vacuum would not lean down all of the way.  I didn't even mention the indicator not working properly.  He told me that he did request a replacement for me a couple of weeks ago but it was not authorized.  He said if he had it his way I would already have a new vacuum, but it is out of his control.  He then told me that he will have his Supervisor call me (Sally) if anything else to consol me about this.  Hmmm, I don't think there's going to be  much consoling at this point in time.  I'm pretty close to ripping into someone, but I know that won't get me anywhere. 

I'll update after I speak with Sally.

Melanie


This is what should happen!!!

Miele should send you a NEW S7, shipped to your house with a ups pick up for your old machine,The new machine should be New and factory sealed. Bosch did and does this as they want to build their customer service reputation, If this was handled right from the begining with your machine [You'd Be happy as a clam and send them customers ,but no miele is all about miele. So much for emmer-besser.......

regards

MOLE

catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner - New Discussion
Reply #382   Mar 23, 2009 10:53 am
Hmmm, I'm confused.  I replied to Venson and somehow that started a new discussion.  I'm not sure what I did wrong.  Does anyone know how to fix that?

Melanie

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner - New Discussion
Reply #383   Mar 23, 2009 11:22 am
catlady wrote:
Hmmm, I'm confused.  I replied to Venson and somehow that started a new discussion.  I'm not sure what I did wrong.  Does anyone know how to fix that?</p><p>Melanie

I don't know but I was wondering how you did it. It may have been me as I noticed my post to you looks like a quote. Well, not to worry -- message received.

Venson
Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #384   Mar 23, 2009 11:58 am
Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #385   Mar 23, 2009 12:48 pm
SEVERUS wrote: "Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. "
THANK YOU, SEVERUS, FOR PROVING MY POINT!  No matter what happens now, Miele and Melanie both lose. Miele has lost the opportunity to keep faith with a customer, and who knows how much business, and Melanie loses time and energy, and can never be anything but the b*tchy ole catlady to the vac shop because they broke faith and want to blame her.
Melanie and all: I called Lindhaus today, and asked for Al Carpenter by name. Al was busy, but Bill was very pleasant. I asked him just to log on and read the thread to see what his supposed competition is up to in the customer service arena. I do not know what, if anything, they can or will do, but everyone who will ever buy a vacuum needs to know what Miele is really like when  it's time to make good on the "Immer Besser" spiel. Obviously Miele dealers do not read this forum, or there would be a tsunami of outrage from them. Dealers and reps who really care and work hard to keep faith with their customers will continue to lose business over this one incident. I hope they wise up, tell Miele to pack sand where 141cfm can't pull it out, and give Lindhaus,Sebo, Simplicity/Riccar and Emer a call.
Thanks again, Severus. All who will boycott Miele because of this instance, please post it here, and every Miele sale that is thwarted in favor of another brand, please post it here. Let's show Miele just how much they have saved on this replacement and see if they can figure out how to save their a**es.
The gloves are off as far as I am concerned,
Trebor
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