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| Trilobite 
    
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	|  | The New Miele Upright Cleaner Original Message   Mar 23, 2008 6:12 pm
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 First upright from Miele |  |  | 29 February 2008 
 
 This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.  It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and  “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest   of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following   numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use   an upright model. Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009 Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image. | 
 
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| Venson 
     
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	|  | Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner Reply #143   Oct 11, 2008 7:44 am
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 Sorry Mike, I know this has nothing to do with vacuums!  Just some food [gas] for thought! Carmine D.
 Carmine, maybe it does.  Fuel charges for delivery of goods, whether to vendors or consumers, also affect the price of just about anything we buy.
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| DysonInventsBig 
     
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	|  | Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner Reply #144   Oct 11, 2008 10:18 am
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Carmine and Venson, My dumping method takes me approximately 45 seconds to accomplish. - This is hardly a time suck. Carmine, As I have posted of the Dyson Shroud many times before, it's the best on earth and no others can do what he and/or his engineers did.  It is the worlds first sweeping shroud (air traveling into the bin sweeps shroud). - Fact.  Come-on, you know I recently posted you of this genius shroud invention.  Make no mistake (outside readers), hair rarely gets stuck or sucked into Dyson patented shrouds. Reply #10 http://abbysguide.com/vacuum/discussions/30669-0-1.html DIB 
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| CarmineD 
     
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	|  | Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner Reply #145   Oct 11, 2008 11:18 am
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   Make no mistake (outside readers), hair rarely gets stuck or sucked into Dyson patented shrouds.
 
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 DIB:
 Your enthusiasm for all things dyson is commendable but alas the facts speak for themselves.   I'll paraphrase Consumer Reports which says pet hair has a propensity to stick to the plastic dirt bins and bin parts, including the shroud.  CR states that its test staff has to pick off the pet hair by hand to measure the amount actually picked up after vacuuming in order to score the pet hair tests.  CR consistently sites this shortcoming about bagless vacuums.  For this reason and others, CR recommends asthma and allergy sufferers avoid bagless vacuums and/or recommends the use of breathing masks in concert with bagless vacuums.   Carmine D.   
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| Trilobite 
    
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	|  | Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner Reply #146   Oct 11, 2008 12:56 pm
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"As I have posted of the Dyson Shroud many times before, it's the best on earth and no others can do what he and/or his engineers did.  It is the worlds first sweeping shroud (air traveling into the bin sweeps shroud). - Fact.  Come-on, you know I recently posted you of this genius shroud invention.  Make no mistake (outside readers), hair rarely gets stuck or sucked into Dyson patented shrouds." DIBIn my experience, ladies' long hair, feathers (from duvets and pillows), synthetic long fibres from certain carpets, can and do stick to that damned Dyson shroud. That I can attest to.
 It should also be mentioned that over a period of time, the Dyson will start to smell, even if the bin is emptied regularly and the filter washed. This is because the fine dust accumulates in the airducts within the shroud area, as well as the small cyclone depositing area. I found the answer with my DC15: wash the complete, removable cyclone bin assembly. Here is what I did. (Wear eye protection!) Empty bin, remove clear bin, wash clear bin with detergent. Remove pre-filter, wash both parts of pre-filter in warm water, by hand, with laundry detergent. I used P&G's "Bold" powder. Rinse well, allow to thoroughly air dry. Remove filter lid (hinge can be gently forced off one side), set aside. There should only be the shroud and inner cyclone assembly now. Fill a 2-gallon bucket with hand-hot water, add a scoop of laundry powder, place the inner cyclone assembly into bucket, and agitate up & down vigorously, and rotate clockwise & anti-clockwise. Invert the cyclone assembly and place back into the bucket, using same up & down and rotating motions. You may find that you have to empty the pail and start again, due to the amount of dirt released. Rinse all washed parts thoroughly, and allow to air-dry for a couple of days. When all parts are dry, re-assemble and enjoy a clean machine once again! Of course, you could save yourselves all this hassle: by buying a bagged machine. Then, when the bag starts to smell bad, simply replace the bag with a new one. Problem solved! |  
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	|  | Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner Reply #148   Oct 11, 2008 10:17 pm
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 DIB:   Your enthusiasm for all things dyson is commendable but alas the facts speak for themselves.   I'll paraphrase Consumer Reports which says pet hair has a propensity to stick to the plastic dirt bins and bin parts, including the shroud.  CR states that its test staff has to pick off the pet hair by hand to measure the amount actually picked up after vacuuming in order to score the pet hair tests.  CR consistently sites this shortcoming about bagless vacuums.  For this reason and others, CR recommends asthma and allergy sufferers avoid bagless vacuums and/or recommends the use of breathing masks in concert with bagless vacuums.   Carmine D.  Carmine, Is Consumer Reports science or “Laurel and Hardy laughable”, or a blend of the two?        DIB
 
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	|  | Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner Reply #150   Oct 12, 2008 6:40 am
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 If I recall correctly, YOU recently posted here that dyson MUST elevate itself into the top tier of the Consumer Reports ratings to be a viable vacuum leader/seller in the USA market.  Here it is............... Are you serious or delirious, DIB?  On a serious note, Laurel and Hardy, were hilarious in their day of the black and white "talkies" with their slap stick comedy [a favorite of mine and still in reruns on Saturday afternoon TV].  But they are long gone and forgotten.  So too are the duo comedic routines/styles they heralded on national TV with the likes of Abbott and Costello, Lewis and Martin, the Smothers Brothers and Martin/Rowan.  And a host of ventriloquists with "dummies" like Winchell and Mahoney.  Perhaps you and HARDSELL can revive this comedy venue?  I will even script a routine for you using vacuums.  You with your DC15 and HS with his Royal Emminence.  Bagless versus bagged.  Did you know that all the great comedy duos had a vacuum cleaner routine?  No, you probably didn't.  Like I said, gone and forgotten. Science on the other hand has come a long ways in the meantime and to its credit so has Consumer Reports.   Carmine D.Hey Carmine, I say Consumer Reports is a “blend”...  science and Laurel and Hardy laughable.  What say you?        DIB
 
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	|  | Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner Reply #151   Oct 12, 2008 7:00 am
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 "As I have posted of the Dyson Shroud many times before, it's the best on earth and no others can do what he and/or his engineers did.  It is the worlds first sweeping shroud (air traveling into the bin sweeps shroud). - Fact.  Come-on, you know I recently posted you of this genius shroud invention.  Make no mistake (outside readers), hair rarely gets stuck or sucked into Dyson patented shrouds." DIBIn my experience, ladies' long hair, feathers (from duvets and pillows), synthetic long fibres from certain carpets, can and do stick to that damned Dyson shroud. That I can attest to.
 It should also be mentioned that over a period of time, the Dyson will start to smell, even if the bin is emptied regularly and the filter washed. This is because the fine dust accumulates in the airducts within the shroud area, as well as the small cyclone depositing area. I found the answer with my DC15: wash the complete, removable cyclone bin assembly. Here is what I did. (Wear eye protection!) Empty bin, remove clear bin, wash clear bin with detergent. Remove pre-filter, wash both parts of pre-filter in warm water, by hand, with laundry detergent. I used P&G's "Bold" powder. Rinse well, allow to thoroughly air dry. Remove filter lid (hinge can be gently forced off one side), set aside. There should only be the shroud and inner cyclone assembly now. Fill a 2-gallon bucket with hand-hot water, add a scoop of laundry powder, place the inner cyclone assembly into bucket, and agitate up & down vigorously, and rotate clockwise & anti-clockwise. Invert the cyclone assembly and place back into the bucket, using same up & down and rotating motions. You may find that you have to empty the pail and start again, due to the amount of dirt released. Rinse all washed parts thoroughly, and allow to air-dry for a couple of days. When all parts are dry, re-assemble and enjoy a clean machine once again! Of course, you could save yourselves all this hassle: by buying a bagged machine. Then, when the bag starts to smell bad, simply replace the bag with a new one. Problem solved! Trilobite, While unpopular here, my tutorial of eliminating the great majority of dust pluming when emptying a Dyson undoubtedly would get tens of thousands of hits if and when I choose to upload a tutorial vid to YouTube or alike.  How do I know this?  Because it is simple to do, safe to do, fast to do, costs nothing and answers a problem that no others have answered.        DIB If the Dyson shroud is as bad as you say, then why are multi-billions worth of corporations copying the many Dyson expired patent shrouds (Fantom, DC01, etc.) and designing around the current Dyson (DC14/15) patent?  Bissell’s Healthy Home is almost an exact copy of the patented DC14/15 shroud...  why?  Can you name a better designed shroud than the most sought after shroud - the DC14/15 shroud? DIB 
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| CarmineD 
     
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	|  | Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner Reply #152   Oct 12, 2008 9:01 am
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 Are you serious or delirious, DIB?
 Carmine D. Carmine: What say you?        DIBDIB: I say you are definitely delirious.  It takes readers, if they read it, more than 45 seconds to go through the dyson USER GUIDE just on the instructions for dirt bin dumping.  Even so with your abbreviated version.  Do you think they accomplish the task correctly in that time?  If they don't have indoor faciliites for the dirt bin dumping, they will have to go to the garage, basement, and outdoors to do it.  That will take a few minutes or more. Carmine D. 
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