Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

First upright from Miele

29 February 2008 This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.  It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and  “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest  of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following  numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use  an upright model. Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009 Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

C.L..

I hate to burst your bubble about your asthma problem,but a vacuum cleaner is not going to help you with them ,after using the machine for a month get back to us and let us know HOWS THAT WORKING FOR YA.I already know what happens,and please tell the truth.

Maybe you should buy a HALO.

MOLE

Venson and Carmine,

You have both been very helpful.  Thank you so much.

Venson, you have really gone the extra mile to get information for me and I really appreciate it.  There is a good group of people on this site. 

CarmineD wrote:

Congratulations Carmine.  You just gave the most absurd post on the forum.

You would not recommend Dyson in part due to the problems associated with emptying the bin by alergy sufferers.  Now you recommend a messier and costlier process to save a bag.

Let her husband empty the Dyson.  No allergy problem for her and no bag cost.

Thanks for the laugh though.

Happy to assist Catlady:

I suspect even if you came here before you made your MIELE S7 purchase that once all the facts and circumstances of your situation were known, and we made our recommendations, it would have resulted in the same outcome:  Purchase of the MIELE S7 for the short term with the Central Vacuum System next on your agenda.

BTW, when you get your 2009 stimulus payment, remember you heard it here first! 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HARDSELL:

My good friend, I would not recommend a dyson in Melanie's case.  Firstly, the MIELE is without a doubt a better vacuum for Melanie's needs and wants than a dyson.   Secondly, for the money, MIELE is the better vacuum.  Period. 

Remember Sir, reuse of the MIELE bags is not a necessity for using the MIELE like dumping a dyson dirt bin.  This is discretionary to save some money on bags.  Melanie's dear Husband can perform the reuse process on his own time and leisure.  Not dependent and restricted to CATLADY's vacuuming time and his presence both coinciding for dumping a dyson dirt bin.  MIELE bag restoration can be done when and if desirable.

HS I recommend that you restrict your golf play to 9 holes rather than 18.  And just during the times of the day when the sun is not out.  The heat is frying the few brain cells you have left to think with.

Carmine D.

Emptying a Dyson bin with vert little dust escaping is easy...
1) Use a plastic (grocery) bag > use a pump spray water bottle and coat the inside of bag with water (dust sticks to water).
2) Per Dyson’s instructions, place bag around and under bottom of clear bin securely.
3) Dump contents into bag > be patient, allowing as much dust as possible to be absorbed by the water. > Tie bag handles into a knot and dispose or...
4) Place (without tying into a knot) dirty bag into a second clean bag and lay flat and tie the second bags handles into a knot. This will further reduce movement of dust or dust escaping.
5) Wipe clear bin dry of any water. That's it.

DIB

DIB:

Dyson devotes two pages in its User Guide with illustrations and narrative to decribe the dirt bin dumping process for asthma and allergy sufferers.  Do vacuum users have the time and energy to follow these instructions [even your abbreviated version]?  After vacuuming the house? 

Add loads of pet hair to the dirt.  One of the criticisms often heard of bagless, not just a dyson, is that pet hair sticks to all the plastic dirt bin parts and components, like the infamous shroud.  Do you have any recommendations for this?  Please don't say to spray the pets with Static Guard!  The animal rights people will be livid!

Rainbow uses water to contain dust and dirt in the canister.  Why?  You said it: Dirt sticks to water....BTW, making mud.  Mud and severe allergy and asthma sufferers don't mix well.

My advice to you: Don't play golf with HS!  Even if he lets you use his brand new $2000 golf clubs and ride his new lawn mower!

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

I have a better idea let her bring it back to her MIELE dealer that gave her such a great deal on it,with all the money he made off her im sure he will do it for free and give her a free checkup problem solved,but she would complain about the cost of the gas to get it back and forth.

MOLE

mole wrote:

MOLE:

Gas prices have come way down and still are falling.  Do you really think the consumption of gas by Americans has gone down in half since February to bring the prices down from $140 barrel to $75?  We were told demand made the prices double!  My two SUV's are looking better and better.

Sorry Mike, I know this has nothing to do with vacuums!  Just some food [gas] for thought!

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hi DIB,

If you were speaking of a less challenging situation where light vacuuming was only called for once or twice a week there'd probably be no big deal.  However, you're overlooking Dyson's small dust capacity and the frequent emptying a heavy use situation as has been described would require.  Even Dyson is not a machine that will well endure be impacted with dust and fur for long.  You could also have just about  the same amount of "clean-up fun" with a Rainbow, a "bagless" but $#%*bersome vacuum that allows you to dump stuff down the toilet but that has its own strict maintenance regimen - if you want to keep it.

If we're speaking of a household where there's a lot of other duties to be tended to, the practical housekeeper learns how to be as quick and effective as possible by way of the least complicated execution of the tasks at hand so that most of the tasks a given day brings get done.  (Not to mention gaining time for one's self.)  There's seldom time for specializing or maintenance with every use.  Thus, methods and machines that simplify the work at hand are prized and those that further complicate or make daily tasks more complicated are not considered of much use.

Vacuuming in Melanie's household is understandably a daily necessity.  Whether you like vacuuming or not, the ideal is to do the job, put the machine away and get on to the next thing that is also of importance.  That in mind, even if I were to be able to afford hired help to do my housework, I doubt if I'd actually want to pay someone for the time required (15-30 minutes) to do maintenance on my vacuum when it could be used in a more worthwhile fashion.  The best answer to the problem is a machine or system with large dirt capacity and the least painless manner of disposal for sweepings. A vacuum with a big bag and good filtration or a central system are probably probably the better answer.

Also -- no -- a vacuum cleaner will probably not be the best method to promote overall indoor air quality BUT one with good filtration and an exhaust method designed to allow the least disturbance of standing dust, fur, debris, whatever, before it can be vacuumed up should reduce the amount of uncollected matter that may be set airborne by hand methods or badly designed machinery.

Best,

Venson