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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
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The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Original Message   Mar 23, 2008 10:12 pm

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First upright from Miele

29 February 2008

This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.

 It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and

 “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest

 of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following

 numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use

 an upright model.

Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com

Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009

Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

This message was modified Mar 20, 2009 by Trilobite
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #101   Oct 5, 2008 7:58 am
Hello MOLE:

Thanks for your insights into the Aria's pitfalls and shortcomings.  I would hope and expect Lindhaus to correct the usability problems of its Aria canns pronto, or suffer the consequences you mentioned: A lack of credibility for the Lindhaus canns by the independent vacuum owners/operators.  The HF6 IMHO is a lost cause.  Niche use only and marginal for a $900 price tag.  Tho, the 10 year warranty is attractive.

Cordwinder, wand, latch and power head problems on a premium priced Aria cann are inexcusable.  I have a $50 HOOVER sourced cann with a cordwinder that works great and has for over a year.  The wands on this HOOVER cann are steel and adjustable.  The wands retail for one third the price of the vacuum.  Workmanship and quality issues causing malfunctions in a $1000 plus cann within the first year of sales are product killers.

I must say that it's rare in the industry for a vacuum maker [foreign and/or domestic] to nail down both a top rate upright and cann model at the same time.  HOOVER never did it despite numerous attempts, IMHO.  More often than not, the lesser of the two [upright/cann] is kept around to complement the household line of floor care products. 

Economic reality sometimes sets in and prevails especially in hard times, like now.  That will, if current conditions continue, be dyson's rude awakening:  i.e. the ill-fated contra-balancing washer.  Classic case of one man's ego over the reality of the product's performance and price.

IF [big IF] Miele nails down a quality upright [and I suspect you have your doubts just like me] it will be one of a hand full and very few who can boast a top of the line cann and top of the line upright both at the same time. 

Like you and Bruce and others, I'm waiting to see the new MIELE upright at my local dealer.  If anyone can, Miele is the one.  Time will tell.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Oct 5, 2008 by CarmineD
Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
Points: 271

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #102   Oct 6, 2008 3:51 pm
Quickly used the top line Miele S7 yesterday. a few Quick thoughts

Quality feel

Vacs nicely (but I did not have a Synergy to compare head to head with)

It swivels very nicely as well.

Easy to thrust but a little heavy to pull back.

VERY LONG HOSE and it's not supposed to tip over when it is extended

Bags and Filters easy to change plus HEPA is the same as the canister

Premium price
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #103   Oct 6, 2008 5:02 pm
Hi Lucky1,

Thanks for the news.  Was the model you tried self-propelled?  Pricewise, are we talking above the $600 mark?

Best,

Venson

catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #104   Oct 8, 2008 11:37 am
Venson wrote:
Hi Melanie,

You're very welcome.  If you don't mind saying, please let us know what the going price is for the bags.

Best,

Venson



I am really unhappy with the availability and cost of these bags.  These are U style bags.  The cost is almost $17.00 ($16 something, can't remember exactly) for 4 bags!!!  I vacuum almost daily because I have a large number of animals in my home.  I'm going through a 1 bags every 2 weeks.  These bags are going to cost me a fortune and have almost made me regret my decision to buy this vacuum.  Plus my Vac Shop took weeks to get them in after I ran out.  I ended up borrowing a vacuum cleaner while waiting for the bags to come in.
hbw248


Joined: Aug 11, 2003
Points: 716

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #105   Oct 8, 2008 2:14 pm
catlady wrote:
I am really unhappy with the availability and cost of these bags.  These are U style bags.  The cost is almost $17.00 ($16 something, can't remember exactly) for 4 bags!!!  I vacuum almost daily because I have a large number of animals in my home.  I'm going through a 1 bags every 2 weeks.  These bags are going to cost me a fortune and have almost made me regret my decision to buy this vacuum.  Plus my Vac Shop took weeks to get them in after I ran out.  I ended up borrowing a vacuum cleaner while waiting for the bags to come in.



Looks like you're one of the lucky ones to already have one of these vacuums! From what I've read on the S7, the bags are suppose to be huge. I'm surprised you're going through this many so quickly? The availability of bags should improve over time since this is a new model cleaner.

Please let us know what you think of the cleaning performance and user-friendly features. I'm sure we'd all love to hear from you on this.

Bruce

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #106   Oct 8, 2008 2:39 pm
Hi Melanie,

Sorry to hear you're having a problem.  Also, thank you much for sharing the bag price with us.  Unfortunately, most expensive appliances, as well as pricey cars, carry burdensome prices on replacement parts and necessary maintenance items.  Personally, I think bigger reason for the higher expense is merely that you bought into a "name".   I hope there's some sort consolation in this by way of the machine's performance. Nonetheless, to be fair, since the cleaner was out for pre-market testing I don't think maintenance items are usually easy to get before it becomes a bona fide part of company inventory.

I have a Miele canister and a four-pack of high filtration bags can cost about the same.  I have found the best relief for Miele disposable bags' high cost is to look for a good discount for two or more packages of bags through sellers on eBay.  It may take a little time I think before bags for your upright will be regularly in stock at Miele dealers.

In the interim, hold on to that phone number and hope for the best.

Thinking on pricing, I once had a friend whose mother had left him a wonderful, large house that he probably would be paying on 'til who knows when if he'd had to have bought it himself.  It seems every time a tradesman stopped by his price went up about twenty bucks.

Best,

Venson

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #107   Oct 8, 2008 3:34 pm
catlady wrote:
I am really unhappy with the availability and cost of these bags.  These are U style bags.  The cost is almost $17.00 ($16 something, can't remember exactly) for 4 bags!!!  I vacuum almost daily because I have a large number of animals in my home.  I'm going through a 1 bags every 2 weeks.  These bags are going to cost me a fortune and have almost made me regret my decision to buy this vacuum.  Plus my Vac Shop took weeks to get them in after I ran out.  I ended up borrowing a vacuum cleaner while waiting for the bags to come in.

I have never purchased belts, bags or paid for servicing of my Dyson... ever. Sorry to hear you're unhappy. DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #108   Oct 8, 2008 3:59 pm
catlady wrote:  May 28, 2008
I just bought a new Miele S7280 from my local Vac Shop on Saturday.  They got in 6 to sell under a testing phase.  I paid $599.99 for it. 
Pros:
It looks cool.  I have the black/red model.  My husband said it looks like a vacuum cleaner Spider Man or Iron Man would own.  I am hoping that it looks "cool" enough to make him want to use it.
It has a 40 foot cord.  I have a small house and I can vacuum my entire first floor without having to relocate the plug.
It swivels and it's self propelled.  That makes it super easy to maneuver around the house.
It leans all of the way down to the floor.  I haven't actually had to use that feature yet so I have no real opinion of it.  But it's nice to have in case I need to do that.
It has the suction control and switches from floor to carpet.  That has come in handy quite a bit for me as I vacuum carpet, linoleum, curtains, cat trees, and different pet toys.
The vacuum cleaner does an excellent job cleaning up my home.   I have 10 cats and 4 dogs so there is a constant battle with pet hair around here.  The Miele has made vacuuming it up easy and my carpets look better than they have in years.  I was previously using a Dirt Devil Reactor so there is a huge difference in the quality of vacuum I was using.  I expected to fill up the bag by now, but I the indicator is only half way over.  That's a plus for me.
It comes with 3 tools: a crevice tool, a dusting brush, and a upholstery tool.  The wand is telescopic and allows me to reach the corner of my ceilings where cob webs collect.  The vacuum hose disconnects from the wand allowing you to use the tools much easier.
The head lamp is all LEDs.
Also, I can reach the top of my steps with the hose, so no more pulling the vacuum up the steps as I clean them.


Cons:
I hate the dusting brush.  It's too small and gets all clogged up with pet hair since the bristles are too close together to allow for proper air flow into the hose.
The foot pedal to recline the vacuum is difficult to use.  I step on it and I have to move the vacuum around a bit to get it to lean back.  Usually is slams to the floor as I lean it back.
At the Vac Shop I asked them to test the air emissions of this model.  We first used the tester on the Miele Capricorn canister.  It went down to 0 in just about a minute. 
With this vacuum it stayed between 2 - 3000.  However when we tested the Sebo X4 (which is what I was going to buy), it was over a million.
It doesn't edge as well as the Sebo X4 when I compared them using clean cat litter from home at the Vac Shop.  My local Vac Shop let me bring down cat litter and my own pet hair to do some real tests to make sure I was getting the right vacuum cleaner for me.

I hope this review helps.  I really love this vacuum so far and my home looks and feels much  cleaner.  It has made vacuuming much easier for me.  With my old vacuum I usually had to go over things several times to get the pet hair off.  Now I only go over everything once and it's clean.  Even my cat tree looked brand new after a good vacuuming with the Miele.  I shaved my 2 long haired dogs down on Monday and the living room was covered in hair.  We picked up the big chunks and let the Miele do the rest.  We only ran it over the carpet 1 time and all of the hair disappeared.  It also does an excellent job vacuuming my cat litter (World's Best).  I would highly suggest this over the Sebo X4.

catlady wrote:  October 8, 2008

I am really unhappy with the availability and cost of these bags.  These are U style bags.  The cost is almost $17.00 ($16 something, can't remember exactly) for 4 bags!!!  I vacuum almost daily because I have a large number of animals in my home.  I'm going through a 1 bags every 2 weeks.  These bags are going to cost me a fortune and have almost made me regret my decision to buy this vacuum.  Plus my Vac Shop took weeks to get them in after I ran out.  I ended up borrowing a vacuum cleaner while waiting for the bags to come in.

It appears something went seriously wrong between May 28 and now with your selection and opinion of the MIELE upright S7.  The $4 cost per bag blindsided you.  Is this now a deal breaker for you?

Carmine D.

This message was modified Oct 8, 2008 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #109   Oct 8, 2008 4:10 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
I have never purchased belts, bags or paid for servicing of my Dyson... ever. Sorry to hear you're unhappy. DIB


DIB:

I'm sure you mentioned before, but would you mind repeating when you bought, which dyson, and what you paid? 

Carmine D.

catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #110   Oct 8, 2008 4:21 pm
I do still love the vacuum and stand by my earlier review.  It does a great job in my home.  It's better than any vacuum I've ever owned.  Although I am really curious about the Riccar so many people love.  But I don't think I'll be getting another stimulus check anytime soon.  The bags are a big downfall for me though.  Because I vacuum so much and I have so many long haired pets I fill up the bags quickly (about 2 weeks, sometimes a few extra days if I slack on my vacuuming).  The bags that initially came with my vacuum were 5 bags for $15.35.  Still expensive, but I did expect them to be pricey because of the quality.  I just didn't expect the actual U bags to be less for more.  I am going to mention this when Miele sends me my next survey.
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