Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

Assuming your number is correct and represents 2007 sales

for dyson.  I say it is not very impressive.  Why? 

Assume that the average cost of a new dyson is $400 [low side]

that means that dyson sells 3 million new vacuums a year. 

Do you think that is impressive and worthy of  boasting?  If so, why?

Assume further that these sales are disbursed

over 50 countries [or chose whatever number of countries you like],

the new vacuums per country is 60,000. 

For talking purposes, assume too that the average cost of a new dyson

is $500 [more likely but still probably low].  Then the new dysons sold

per year are 2.4 Million worldwide and 48,000 per country. 

That's not even a one hour sale on HSN for

one day.  My sense is wheel barrows would be more lucrative.

Carmine D.

DIB:

BTW, I thought you were going to

provide the details on the Kenneth J.

versus dyson legal action for the vacuum

ball wheel facilitator?  Did you, and I

missed it?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine, I could easily post the lawsuit.  But I did not want to publically put out Kenneth's  home town, etc.  So I'm giving it some thought, all the while I am getting our trailer and faimily ready for a vacation.  I will try to post (if I can get an internet conncetion, which I believe I can) during our vacation.        DIB

CarmineD wrote:
Carmine, while you constantly bash (there goes that word again!) the sales figures of the Dyson that are otherwise impressive to myself and most others here, you also give us NOTHING to compare them to.  Where are the Hoover sales figures for 2007?  What about Eureka/Electrolux, or better yet, Oreck?  I'd like to see how those compare.

Electrolux sold 3 million Model 30s TOTAL from 1937-1954 (excluding the WWII years of course).  That having been said, averaging 3 million machines PER YEAR is quite an accomplishment on Dyson's part, and is hardly anything to sneeze at.

I don't understand the relevance to the wheelbarrow, but I will say that IF Dyson were to make the Ballbarrow again, they would probably do quite well as it was a successful product at the time.  But, as I mentioned earlier, Dyson has some damn good "wheelbarrows" already, just read the customer reviews talking about the "bushels" of dirt removed from their carpets

-MH

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Enjoy your vacation. 

Carmine D.

Motorhead wrote:

I did not post/boast of any manufactuers' vacuum sales.  Why should

I have to defend them?  Why should I compare dyson sales to any brand's numbers?

I responded to DIB post [not you] who did boast and post about dyson's annual sales. 

I asked DIB why he thinks $1.2 B in annual sales is worthy of boasting about.

I'm not sure the $1.2 B is accurate, valid and/or correct. 

I don't know what year[s] it is for.  If it is even for more than one year.  Or dyson's best?

What/who is the source of the number?  DIB as far as I know.

I used DIB's number as a talking point to make a point.  You chimed in.  Are you DIB? 

You may think 2-3 Million worldwide units is "nothing to sneeze at."   But what did it cost

dyson to produce and sell the 2-3 million new dysons?  Do you know?  Does DIB know?

Do you think that is an important piece of information to know if one is quoting the annual dollar

sales? 

Let's say for talking purposes that it cost dyson $2 Billion dollars to make and sell

the $1.2 B in dysons?  Would you still say 2-3 M dysons is nothing to sneeze at? 

WRT wheel barrows:  My statement is clear.  My sense is that their annual sales

are more lucrative than vacuums.  Do you want to disagree?  

Carmine D.

Motorhead wrote:

Electrolux also made and sold the Model 12 [1930-1937]; the model 60 [1952-1955];

and the Model E [1954-1956].  Since the yearly number of all dyson models sold is

the number used, then should you also include these sales numbers too?

Carmine D.

You haven't answered my question.  What are the yearly sales figures for Hoover, Eureka, and Oreck?  Surely you must know *those* since you know so much about Dyson sales.  Concerning Dyson sales in America alone, that is more along the lines of 4 million.  Worldwide is approximately 25 million annually, hard to believe but VERY MUCH true.  In the UK, 70% of households use Dysons, while Miele occupies 10% of the remainder.  The other brands must try to occupy the remaining 20%, and that's just the UK market alone.  No matter where in the world you go, there you are, and so is the Dyson.

In another 10 years, Dysons will be everywhere here just like they are across the pond right now...over 30% of all households in America will have them.  Unlike some (Hoover Tempo/WT for example), no one will throw a Dyson in the trash can.  Instead, if something does go wrong, they will take it in for service, provided the customer isn't a complete and total moron of course

-MH

Motorhead wrote:

My dear fellow, I didn't post and boast of the dyson sales.  I have no idea what they are.  DIB and now you are posting and boasting.  I think its odd that you are both quoting different numbers and amounts so authoritatively.  

Using your numbers [4 m sales in the USA per year] the annual dyson sales revenue just in the USA alone is $1.6 B [using an average of $400 per new dyson].  Using your number of $10 M for dyson vacuum sales worldwide, then annual dyson sales is $25 B [using $400 per dyson]. 

DIB said dyson sales income is $1.2 B [worldwide].  Your numbers and DIB are not even in the same ballpark.  Off by a magnitude of 10!

Do you have a source and reference for your numbers that you can share?  Maybe DIB will do the same. One/or both of you are misquoting and/or are in error.

Carmine D.

Read my question again that I presented to you TWICE, tell me what Hoover's sales figures are and I will gladly tell you more.  Cooperation goes both ways.

-MH