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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #188   Mar 18, 2008 11:10 pm

MH,

I have not seen the new uprights, but from photos and playing the Japanese swf movie in slow speed I saw 5 high efficiency cyclones in the DC24.  The DC11 has 5 cyclones (each half), but the cyclones were tightly put together.  The DC24 bin, cyclones and shroud look like one half of the DC11 bin, cyclones and shroud.  Does anyone remember how well the DC11 cyclones filtered?        DIB

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Motorhead


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #189   Mar 19, 2008 12:25 am
Hi DIB,

I visited Tom last month and one of the machines he showed me was his DC11.  If I remember correctly, he told me (while showing me the cyclone assembly of the DC11) that the Japan-exclusive DC12 does just that; its cyclone assembly is based on half of the DC11's cyclone assembly.  Looking at the picture of the DC24 again, I would bet that the DC24's bin/cyclone assembly is a new design, it doesn't look like the DC11 or DC12 to me but I could be wrong. 

Here's a picture of the DC12 for reference, I can see the similarities to the DC11's cyclone assembly.  The one thing I don't care for on the DC11 are the two cyclone assemblies and the oblong bin, with the narrow space it seems like there would be a greater potential for dirt to get trapped between the bin and the shroud(s) and would be more difficult to empty.  I prefer the single, round cyclone assembly and bin of the other models.

-MH

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #190   Mar 19, 2008 2:09 pm

MH,

I think the DC12 is based on the DC11 but scaled up by 20-25%.  For a long time I believed like Tom that the 12 and the 11 were the same (based on photos only and not in person).  But when I saw some DC12 photos showing some scale, the answered presented its self.       DIB

 

P.S.  Outside of Dyson engineers, perhaps no one knows more of Dyson’s than Tom.

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kwc1980


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #191   Mar 19, 2008 2:09 pm
I keep reading this and I am torn as to what to get.  I'm think either the DC18, DC24 or DC25.  I am moving into a new condo and need a new vacuum cleaner.  We don't have any pets currently but may in the future. The place is quite dusty right now since it is a new building and they are still completing various small construction here and there. It's around 1000 sq.ft place.

I am from Canada and they don't have the DC25 model.  I will probably get a relative from the States to pick it up if it so be it.  The price difference between Canada and US is ridiculous too considering the dollar is pretty much the same now.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #192   Mar 19, 2008 2:33 pm
Hi DIB,

Looking at the picture you posted, I can see the difference, although it is a bit hard to tell at first glance.  I've never seen a DC12 in person either so it would be interesting to see a hands-on comparison of the two (DC11 and 12) side-by-side.

Hi kwc1980,

If I were in your situation I would go for the DC25 "Daddy Ball", it's about the same size as the DC18 Slim (uses the same cyclone assembly/bin as the Slim to be exact) but a new design.  The DC24 "Baby Ball" wouldn't be a bad choice either for a space the size of yours, but it is a smaller machine with a smaller bin so you might have to empty it more often.  In the case with Dysons, smaller isn't synonymous with less powerful like we would normally think, so whichever one you choose will give you good performance regardless of size.

-MH
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mole


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #193   Mar 19, 2008 3:15 pm
When it comes to vacuum cleaners DYSON makes a pretty nice wheelbarrow.

MOLE

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #194   Mar 19, 2008 5:04 pm
Yes, because the Dyson can remove (literally) mountains of dirt from the carpet.  Excellent observation.
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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #195   Mar 20, 2008 12:21 pm
mole wrote:
When it comes to vacuum cleaners DYSON makes a pretty nice wheelbarrow.

MOLE



Nice try.  The reality is Dyson sells approximately $1.2 billion worth of inventive vacuum cleaners annually.        DIB


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #196   Mar 20, 2008 1:33 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Nice try.  The reality is Dyson sells approximately $1.2 billion worth of inventive vacuum cleaners annually.        DIB



Hello DIB:

Assuming your number is correct and represents 2007 sales

for dyson.  I say it is not very impressive.  Why? 

Assume that the average cost of a new dyson is $400 [low side]

that means that dyson sells 3 million new vacuums a year. 

Do you think that is impressive and worthy of  boasting?  If so, why?

Assume further that these sales are disbursed

over 50 countries [or chose whatever number of countries you like],

the new vacuums per country is 60,000. 

For talking purposes, assume too that the average cost of a new dyson

is $500 [more likely but still probably low].  Then the new dysons sold

per year are 2.4 Million worldwide and 48,000 per country. 

That's not even a one hour sale on HSN for

one day.  My sense is wheel barrows would be more lucrative.

Carmine D.

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #197   Mar 20, 2008 1:36 pm
DIB:

BTW, I thought you were going to

provide the details on the Kenneth J.

versus dyson legal action for the vacuum

ball wheel facilitator?  Did you, and I

missed it?

Carmine D.

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