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M00seUK
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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm |
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Motorhead
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #185 Mar 18, 2008 4:46 pm |
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They might, actually. Consider someone living in a semi-detached, tired of lugging $#%*bersome cleaners about; wants a lightweight machine, buys a DC24, complains to Dyson about the short hose. Suppose Dyson addresses this problem? It has been done before, with the DC15. I always liked the UK Hoover machines - they had the longest hoses on test, according to WHICH? Speaking of Hoover, what happened to the Anniversary Centenary model that was touted? (I see we have a ridiculous 'bot intercepting valid words and phrases. Might I suggest that the interception profiles be updated in some way?) I noticed the same thing earlier, when I tried to use the word "cūmbersome" as well. Hopefully the annoying problem will be corrected in the future, but for now, the accented "u" on the character map does fine (even if it does look a bit strange) ;-) At any rate, I do remember seeing the Fantom extension hoses (one was also touted as part of a "car cleaning kit") in the mid-90's, although the hose on the IONA (later Thunder when it changed from 11 amps to 12)/Kenmore Destiny didn't seem to be that short (though I thought removing the handle was a little strange since it was the first machine I saw with that particular arrangement). The DC25 uses the same bin assembly as the DC18. The DC24's bin is about half that size, so I can't see anyone wanting it for a decent-sized house, unless of course they don't mind emptying it often. If it was my only choice, however, I wouldn't mind, but that is just my opinion. I can see where it would be desirable for older women who need something that is lightweight and not very big (read: telescoping handle and easy to carry), or those living in small apartments. In both situations the user could certainly benefit from good performance in a small cleaner, which is rare these days...even though it may be small, at least it will still clean, something that cannot be said about the lightweight uprights it was designed to compete with (either bagged or with clogging bin filters). I didn't notice any problems with the hose length on the DC07, 14, 17, or 18. I do agree that yes, the hose on the DC15 is a bit short, but it's definitely not the shortest I've used by any means. I would guess that if it becomes an issue with the DC24, Dyson wouldn't have a problem correcting it, either by furnishing an extension hose or correcting the problem on new models after a certain period of time. -MH
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #188 Mar 18, 2008 11:10 pm |
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MH, I have not seen the new uprights, but from photos and playing the Japanese swf movie in slow speed I saw 5 high efficiency cyclones in the DC24. The DC11 has 5 cyclones (each half), but the cyclones were tightly put together. The DC24 bin, cyclones and shroud look like one half of the DC11 bin, cyclones and shroud. Does anyone remember how well the DC11 cyclones filtered? DIB
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Motorhead
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #189 Mar 19, 2008 12:25 am |
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Hi DIB, I visited Tom last month and one of the machines he showed me was his DC11. If I remember correctly, he told me (while showing me the cyclone assembly of the DC11) that the Japan-exclusive DC12 does just that; its cyclone assembly is based on half of the DC11's cyclone assembly. Looking at the picture of the DC24 again, I would bet that the DC24's bin/cyclone assembly is a new design, it doesn't look like the DC11 or DC12 to me but I could be wrong. Here's a picture of the DC12 for reference, I can see the similarities to the DC11's cyclone assembly. The one thing I don't care for on the DC11 are the two cyclone assemblies and the oblong bin, with the narrow space it seems like there would be a greater potential for dirt to get trapped between the bin and the shroud(s) and would be more difficult to empty. I prefer the single, round cyclone assembly and bin of the other models. -MH
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #190 Mar 19, 2008 2:09 pm |
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MH, I think the DC12 is based on the DC11 but scaled up by 20-25%. For a long time I believed like Tom that the 12 and the 11 were the same (based on photos only and not in person). But when I saw some DC12 photos showing some scale, the answered presented its self. DIB P.S. Outside of Dyson engineers, perhaps no one knows more of Dysons than Tom.
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kwc1980
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #191 Mar 19, 2008 2:09 pm |
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I keep reading this and I am torn as to what to get. I'm think either the DC18, DC24 or DC25. I am moving into a new condo and need a new vacuum cleaner. We don't have any pets currently but may in the future. The place is quite dusty right now since it is a new building and they are still completing various small construction here and there. It's around 1000 sq.ft place. I am from Canada and they don't have the DC25 model. I will probably get a relative from the States to pick it up if it so be it. The price difference between Canada and US is ridiculous too considering the dollar is pretty much the same now. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Motorhead
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #192 Mar 19, 2008 2:33 pm |
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Hi DIB, Looking at the picture you posted, I can see the difference, although it is a bit hard to tell at first glance. I've never seen a DC12 in person either so it would be interesting to see a hands-on comparison of the two (DC11 and 12) side-by-side. Hi kwc1980, If I were in your situation I would go for the DC25 "Daddy Ball", it's about the same size as the DC18 Slim (uses the same cyclone assembly/bin as the Slim to be exact) but a new design. The DC24 "Baby Ball" wouldn't be a bad choice either for a space the size of yours, but it is a smaller machine with a smaller bin so you might have to empty it more often. In the case with Dysons, smaller isn't synonymous with less powerful like we would normally think, so whichever one you choose will give you good performance regardless of size. -MH
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