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Acerone


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Dyson AirBlade
Original Message   Dec 12, 2007 5:44 am
Saw the Dyson Airblade commercial for the first time last night. Anyone else seen it yet?
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #6   Mar 5, 2008 12:52 pm
MrApollinax wrote:
I do a lot of travel for work and I've seen them in quite a few airport restrooms.



Mr. A:

Are the airblades standalone dryers in the A/P restrooms and/or do they coexist with the conventional hand dryers and paper towels?

Carmine D.

MrApollinax


Joined: Feb 18, 2008
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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #7   Mar 5, 2008 1:06 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Mr. A:</p><p>Are the airblades standalone dryers in the A/P restrooms and/or do they coexist with the conventional hand dryers and paper towels?</p><p>Carmine D.

In all the cases that I can recall the airblades have replaced the conventional hand driers. However every airport restroom I have ever been in has paper towels available regardless of the paperless hand drying system being used.
Acerone


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 986

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #8   Mar 5, 2008 1:31 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Ace:</p><p>This is old my man.  June 2007.  Where's it been?  NYC just added a bunch of public restrooms, plan to add more, and other cities are following suit.  The airblade didn't get the nod.</p><p>Couple of notes on the old article:  It appears the users are women.  A point raised by a gent on one of the Vacuum Forums is that the small airblade drying well would pose a problem for men with hairy man arms.  Recall: I believe it was Gandalf who did.</p><p>Second:  The unsanitary water/mess left on and around the airblade. Takes a custodian to monitor and clean.  Labor costs.</p><p>Rubbermaid recently entered the bathroom washroom industry by acquiring a company well intrenched in non-touch and sanitary bathroom devices.  Seems it has the hold on the market despite dyson's entrance in September 2006 with the airblade.  More common are the touchless paper towels that push out a towel from the the motion of hands.  Sure it uses trees for the paper.  But in a the current housing market with no wood beingh harvested for new home building and/or aluminum studs for frames, what else should be done with these trees?  No, not newsapers.  Most get news on-line and TV.  Paper towels!</p><p>Carmine D.

My bad.... Carry on.... ;-)
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #9   Mar 6, 2008 11:19 pm
Acerone,

James Dyson was interviewed in Forbes recently and the topic of conversation was his Airblade.  Here.


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #10   Mar 27, 2008 6:47 pm
Here is a synopsis of dyson Airblade [hand dryer] sales according to a reliable source:

Since it's launch in the summer of 2007, total Airblades sold are 100,000

Total sales in dollars:  $140,000

Cost to dyson to produce each unit: $840

Retail price: $1400 {about 3X as much as traditional hand dryers].

It has not taken off as quickly and well as dyson hoped. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #11   Mar 27, 2008 7:46 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Here is a synopsis of dyson Airblade [hand drier] sales according to a reliable source:

Since it's launch in the summer of 2007, total Airblades sold are 100,000

Total sales in dollars:  $140,000

Cost to dyson to produce each unit: $840

Retail price: $1400

It has not taken off as quickly and well as dyson hoped. 

Carmine D.



How long can Dyson lose $838.60  per unit?
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #12   Mar 28, 2008 9:28 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Acerone,

James Dyson was interviewed in Forbes recently and the topic of conversation was his Airblade.  Here.



Per the Forbes Dyson interview (link above)…

.

Airblade - $140,000,000 in sales:

When I first linked and posted the Forbes interview of James Dyson and him talking of his Airblade, etc. it read “$140,000 in sales”.  It has since been corrected and now reads “$140,000,000” in sales.  Adding 3 zeros helps

.

Money and growth:

"Dyson, whose Malmesbury, England, company netted $64 million after taxes on sales that rose 10% last year, to $1 billion."

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In the past, Forbes UK online reported Dyson sales around $1.2 billion.  Now it looks like he is only selling $1 billion worth of goods inventions.  How many can say their privately and solely owned 15 year old business does $1 billion per year? J        DIB

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #13   Mar 29, 2008 7:38 am
Forbes is my source.  Of course, dyson is Forbes source.

Now, the question of whether the AirBlade sales are included in the $1B sales is more relevant.  $140,000 is immaterial on $1B.  $140,000,000 is very material. 

Assume for talking purposes the $140,000,000 is not in the $1B and the vacuum data is segregated [probably a good assumption].  Divide the $64 Million [dyson net profit] by wholesale units of dyson vacuums sold.  If you reasonably estimate 2 Million [USA] and 4 Million [worldwide] sold [based on NPD data], the dyson profit per unit is $16 to $32.  Say 3 MIllion worldwide [more reasonably], the net dyson profit is about $22 per vacuum sold at wholesale.  On the low side for profits for $1B in annual sales? ESPECIALLY AFTER 15 YEARS of operation.  

Sales increased 10 percent in 2007.  Dyson prices went from $400 in 2002 to $500 plus in 2007.  That's 25 percent increase.  Probably at least 10 percent passed on to retailers.   Did dyson unit sales increase?  No, probably not.  In fact, they may have gone down if sales dollars increased 10 percent on price increases of 25 percent.   And that's with increased markets and countries of sale!

Dyson would fare better as a retailer with $250 gross profit per vacuum sold before overhead and operating expenses.  The only problem now is that consumers aren't buying anymore.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #14   Apr 5, 2008 5:09 pm
mole wrote:
.....how about the airblade have they sold more than 50 units yet,I rather wipe my hands off on my trousers,,,,,,,HA, HA, HA,

SELL SELL SELL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

THE -MOLE

many many more than 50 units........ Airblade
Sadly, the number and percentage of adult men who don't wash their hands after doing that particular function is mindboggling.  I don't think Mr. Dyson factored that into his business model for the airblade.  I don't foresee dyson staying in the hand dryer business for many years.  Why?  It's not his mainstay business, vacuums are. 
In the economic conditions dyson will face in the years ahead, he can't afford to hold onto the airblade.  Why?  Let's look at the facts:  It's going on 2 years old.  It costs $840 per unit to produce.  Sells for $1400.  Dyson sold 100,000 units.  Sales are $140,000,000.  Costs $84,000,000.  Profit is $56,000,000.  Not accounting for the 1000 units given away at a cost of $840,000.  On vacuum sales of $4 Billion [estimate for 2007] worldwide annually, who needs the headaches of an added $28 Million a year on a totally unrelated product. 
Divest.  Sell the airblade off to a company which is in the business of restroom facility products.  Cut future airblade losses.  Concentrate on vacuum sales to make up the $28 Million generated per year on the airblades. 
Carmine D.
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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #15   Nov 20, 2008 6:02 pm
A brand new casino recently opened in North Las Vegas.  All the amenities.  Imported crystal chandeliers.  Marble floors and columns.  $675 MILLION, over $400 MILLION financed. 

Unfortunately nothing from dyson from what I've seen so far.  Tho the restrooms utilize chrome hand dryers in lieu of paper/cloth  towels, they appear to be a competitor brand called XLerator.  Whoa!  What a hand dryer.  Small and compact and mounts on the wall like the soap dispenser.  The airlfow is activated by a sensor when you place your hands below.  And deactivated by the sensor when you remove your hands.  Quick, quiet, powerful and leaves your hands and wrists [arms if you are so inclined and use a unit on the wall not over the sinks]  as dry as the hot Las Vegas air.   Very impressive.  Don't know the price.  But I suspect worth every penny.  Due to it's size, appears easily adaptable for household use too. 

I did a quick time check by singing the happy birthday song!  By the time I was done singing, my hands were dry.  I suspect 10 seconds.  Nice thing, tho, the dryer keeps going until you remove your hands.  Less than 10 or more than 10 seconds.  No time limit.  Here's the Web site:

http://www.exceldryer.com/?gclid=CLOppo2FhZcCFQwNGgod51ei-Q

Carmine D.

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