Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

Hello Mike:

I figured you chime in.  But I thought it would be because of this comment I made in my post here:

"The dyson "Never clogs. Never loses suction" mantra is coming back to haunt.  Takes more than a nifty change in wording and moving on.   Doesn't it?"

You let me down.

Carmine D.

BOYS,BOYS,BOYS, How many times do i have to tell you guys that the upright market is fading away and fast,just ask your customers what their floor plan is,95% of the floor plans today do not call for an upright.Canister/Tank machines with electric power nozzles clean as good as any upright out there,dont give me the cyclonic suction B.S. bagged bagless it just customer preference.

B.T.W does water filter the air...................

MOLE

Dyson will never go in the canister market,it dont know how to get it right,it seems like the public isnt swallowing their line of B.S. anymore.

Hard sell,you were suppose to give me a review on your rainbow,you know the one you have in storage.HA.HA.HA.

MOLE

mole wrote:
Mole, your statement baffles me, because uprights are still very prevalent today, and Dyson already *is* in the canister market.  Unless of course it's more wishful thinking which I wouldn't doubt coming from you.

First off, on the subject of canisters.  Dyson learned with the US DC11 (that may no longer be produced in the US but is still being produced elsewhere, FWIW) that people wanted a canister for other tasks besides bare floors and dusting, namely carpets.  That was answered in March of 2007 when a canister with an electric power nozzle (one of the best I have to say) was brought out.  Not to mention the upcoming canister model which I thought was going to be released last month but isn't on the Dyson website as of yet.  If you want to talk worldwide, then let's name them off:  DC12, DC19, DC20, DC22, DC23, and those aren't even all of them.  How's that for "will never be in the canister market?"

Now, to get this thread back where it was, at least somewhat related to the DC24, uprights perform just as well as canisters on bare floors if they have a provision for shutting off the brushroll and a well-designed nozzle.  The DC24 has both, making it a good candidate for both surfaces.  If the nozzle is anything remotely close to that of the DC15, then there's a good possibility it has a suction channel in the front for larger debris on bare floors as well.  I don't understand what you mean by "floor plans", because if we're talking multi-level, a canister would actually be more of a nuisance to carry up and down a flight of stairs (or several).  So in that regard, wouldn't an upright, especially one with a telescoping handle, be easier and better suited to this type of floor plan?  Looking at your statement again, we could say that traditional uprights with no bare floor capability are becoming less common, not modern uprights.

-MH

Motorhead wrote: The motor head runs on 3 small wheels that give it enough clearance to gobble up rice and such. I like this system on bare floor compared the the standard brush type that just seems to collect everything on the front bristles.  I'm not sold however on using this on nicely finished wood floors.  The ball isn't exactly soft and has a tendancy to have grit stick to it making scratching a possibility. 

Dusty

CarmineD wrote:
Aww, thanks!  So where can I send your new Dyson?

Motorhead wrote:

Hi Tom, your right i'm sorry it will never happen again. I will put down my sword and sell out my integrity to sell and devoit my life to Sir James and his band of Einsteins,I will follow the DYSON credo to a T. How foolish of me even to think that I could question you and Sir James,I'm should bow my head in shame. B.T.W  have you been banned from the vacuumland site recently?

sincerely.........THE-MOLE

DC18, Thank you for all the information you've provided from the Uk.  Interesting indeed.  How did the handle weight of the DC25 feel compared to a DC14 or DC07?  Thanks.        DIB

DIB, your welcome.  I'm not sure that is something I didn't check but will do and let you know.   One think I do understand is why they use the handle design on the DC18 Slim and changed it back like the rest of the models (UK) oin the DC25.

DC18

mole wrote:

Today, Forbes magazine online came out with an article called; “The World's Richest People”- “Billionaire Inventors”.  Dyson leads the article and is only compared to/referenced with Edison.  But your Einstein reference is good too.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:
I (along with a few others I recall?) think of James Dyson as the Preston Tucker of the vacuum industry, going up against the "big guys" with his creation that is an improvement over the existing technology.  Thankfully, though, unlike Mr. Tucker, James came out successful in the end, no doubt due to the era he brought his invention to the world.  He couldn't have picked a better time to do this, as I honestly don't know that he would have succeeded 30-40 years ago.  Now, however, the older "bags are best" generation who wouldn't have given his machine a second look in the 1960's or 1970's has for the most part gone by the wayside (died off and continues to die off for lack of a better word).  That or some look at the new technology with optimism and see the positive changes.  Whether or not members of that generation (especially those who are dead-set in their ways and refuse to adjust with the changing times and advancing technology) buy the Dyson is unimportant, it's not their sales James is looking for.  The younger generation which the machine is largely being marketed to sees it as something new, innovative, and (most of all) effective, a large improvement over what existed before.  They ultimately buy it without regret and love it, as I have.  That, to me, is what has attributed to the millions of Dyson sales worldwide, especially in the last 5-6 years.

Comparing bags to true cyclonic bagless is like comparing drum brakes to disc brakes, or carburetion to fuel injection.  Old vs. new.

-MH