Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

Dyson, like we were told by Tom Gasko and his drivel, was looking for the DC15 Ball to be his signature vacuum.  "The greater dyson," I believe Gasko called it.  It flopped.  It is a dud.

Dyson is still trying, as this subject name says, to bring his ball back. 

A DC18 can be bought now from Linens-n-Things for less than $400 WITH a $50 Gift Card.  Wait awhile and it will $100.  DC18, made and sold in 2007, ranked below the DC07 [almost 6 years old] but above the DC15 [3 years old]. 

Dyson has been slipping downward since 2004, probably its best year due to DC07 sales.  2005/6 was better because of higher dyson product prices and new market opportunities, like Canada.  But the last 2 factors are one time spikes. 

Dyson fans and followers are perplexed by the dyson differences among its products.  What do you think "average consumers" think?  I forgot.  They don't think.  They accept and follow the advice of their friends and family when they make purchases.  Word of mouth. 

Carmine D.

I have to say on inspecting the DC25 up close the bin could have been taller and wider in diameter.  But would this of added to overall weight!?  I would also say the DC15, DC18 and the new DC25 probably give the same performance.  The only advantage is the DC25 is lighter than the DC15 and less bulky.  Although the DC25 is cheaper than the DC15 was but the same price as when the DC18 was launched - £279.99. 

One thing to note is both the DC24 and DC25 have smaller cleaning nozzles than the standard models.  You could say the DC25 is a enlarged DC18, but the DC25 does move more smoothly than the DC18 due to the bigger ball.  There is no metal soleplate on these new models like the DC15 had, plus the 2 pivot point flexing nozzle head on the DC15 is not present on them either. 

If someone had to choose between the DC18 or DC25 apart from size to me underneath they are the same.  I think I would go for the DC18 due to it slim profile, but saying that the body of the cleaner feels heavier due to the upright mounted motor unlike the DC25 which is in the ball which is on the floor!

DC18 

CarmineD wrote:

Foreclosures are the result of greedy finance companies (the pros) and idiotic home buyers.  Sort of like a vac purchase from a lying vac pro.

CarmineD wrote:

I have called all my family and friends and invited them over for a vacuum party.  I am recording all vacuum commercials so we can watch them.  I have bought every magazine with a vacuum ad and will likely have these passed around as we praise the local vacuum shops who have so graciously screwed us.  Oddly they tell us that what they sell is the best.

Thanks for the idea carmine.

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HS:

It's not my idea.  It's Oreck's.  I can't take the credit.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Why does that not surprise me?  You know how the old saying goes, birds of a feather flock together...

CarmineD wrote:
I'm not an advocate of blindly following anyones advice no matter what the cost of purchase.  Different strokes for different folks.  What works or doesn't work for one person doesn't mean it'll be the same for me.

Motorhead wrote:

You consider it a privilege to know and "love" James in just a few short years of friendship.  I've known Dave for over 50 years.  He is an icon in the vacuum industry in the USA.  He and his vacuums pass the test of time.  He's probably the last of the best of the industry still around.  It is an honor and privilege to know him.  His children's children will call him blessed. 

The only feathers flocking around him are the ones that the dysons can't pick up in the match offs against ORECK.  Not to worry.  ORECK gets them up, contains securely for disposal in a huge paper bag, and leaves no feathers, dust and dirt behind.  Not in the air, on the vacuum or in the vacuum.  Simply Amazing.  More clean.  Less money.

Carmine D.

dusty wrote:

Way to go.  I'd buy a vacuum from you.  Why?  You're honest and sincere.  Good qualities in the vacuum sales and service industry.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
You know the only reason Oreck came up with that idea is because they couldn't sell the damn thing in the first place.  They were encouraging people to talk about it because it wasn't coming naturally as it did for the Dyson. 

Funny that all of the Oreck tests involve nothing but surface dirt...I'd love to see what happens with ground-in sand or potting soil (which the Dyson does well on).  I am fully aware that the Dyson takes a bit longer to pick up kapok on a rug than most because the brushroll isn't turning as fast as the Oreck's...I've seen the video of an Oreck XL21 and a Dyson DC14, and again with my own eyes when I tried a kapok test with a DC07.  The twist (or what is not seen) is that because of the slower brush speed, the Dyson can actually deep clean while the Oreck only removes the surface dirt...there will always be added dirt from within the carpet along with the test kapok in the bin.  These little "speed tests" mean NOTHING in the grand scheme of things.

And for what it's worth, the XL21 is $749, $200 more than the DC17 Absolute.  And that's if you're buying it from a big-box retailer.  Buy the DC17 from an independent and the XL21 will be $300 more.  Less money?  I think not. 

-MH