Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hello,

I am looking at purchasing a good vac for pet hair.  I am considering the above 2 or something else.  I prefer a bagless upright that has attachments.  I like the price of the Sanitaire.  I also would like something that is reliable.  Thanks for any help!

the DC07 is starting to clearance out of Targets right now. I think they are trying to clear stock before getting the new models in. There are some reports of 50% mark downs from the ticket price of 399.99. If you can find one at the 199-225 range you could try to be industrious and get a picture and manager confirmation and take it to Circuit City, Sears or BBB and try to get a price match less 5%. That puts the 07 in the 190-200 range before taxes. From the reports only the DC07 is clearancing out. The DC14,15 and 17 are all still regular price right now. Good luck!

DysonInventsBig wrote:
DO YOU STILL FEEL THIS WAY D.I.B

MOLE

mole wrote:

I said a few things.  What exactly is the question?        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

I said a few things.  What exactly is the question?        DIB

Hello DIB:

Nice try.  Please allow me to facilitate the discussion here for you.

Like MOLE above,  I doubt the innovative success of dyson.  Why?  Simple.  If the most ardent dyson fans like yourself [above] claim publicly that the 6 year old DC07 bests the newest DC24/25.  Is it any wonder that die hard dyson fans [like HARDSELL] don't buy new dysons [in fact return newly purchased DC14-s].  My sense is that all the dyson fans believe new dyson models are lacking and not as good as past.

Over time and experience [15 years as Dsyon LTD], the latest and greatest guru of vacuum filtration [Mr. Dyson] by his own admirers' admissions is not getting better.  What happened to the dyson improvement that HARDSELL boasts about?  Sounds more like failure.

[To quote my esteemed friend and colleague]:

 mole wrote:

[DIB: Merely re-read your post to discern the question]?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

My sense is that all the dyson fans believe new dyson models are lacking and not as good as past.

You could also include all Hoover, Eureka, Electrolux, Filter Queen etc fans in that statement.  Most would agree nobody makes anything as good as they used to whether it be a model from 5 years ago or 30 years ago. Sad.

Dusty

Hello Dusty:

Very true.  We know how these brands have deteriorated in quality [not performance] over the years.  Suction power, rug cleaning performance, features, maintenance, and weight of the brands you cite are all much better today than their yester- year models.  They clean better, filter better, require less repair and maintenance, have added amenities and features, etc, etc.  And prices have come down.

Back to dysons.  DIB's post about dyson filtration.  The quintessential feature of dysons.  Filtration!  No need for bags that clog.  Right.  Originally, the dyson mantra was:  Never clogs, never loses suction.   With pre-motor filters needing cleaning annually in the DC07/14, save unusual conditions. 

The revised mantra: Never loses suction.  [True of all vacuums.] 

DIB says that the latest and greatest dysons [and still most expensive big box store brand] don't measure up to the DC07 for filtration.  Why?  In part, because the pre-motor filters call for cleaning every 3-4-5 months.  Hassle!  Like changing a paper bag plus daily/weekly dirt bin dumping with home air pollution!

Is this the new and improved dyson innvovation we all hear about?  Requiring a cadre of 500 engineers and enormous annual R&D spending? 

Carmine D.

If people don’t want to purchase a steerable and pivoting Dyson upright that requires more than normal filter maintenance then they have the choice to purchase a competing steerable and pivoting upright from…  well nobody.        DIB

Hello DIB:

I infer from your response [more correctly lack thereof] that you still believe your assessment of dyson's shortfall in filtration of the latest dyson models.   

MOLE told us that the dyson claim that its filters didn't clog was a farce.  You [and others who proclaimed how great dyson art] scoffed him and refused to believe.  MOLE said that dyson was perpetrating a myth on the vacuum industry.

Now all new dyson models have the requirement for users to observe/perform regular filter maintenance.  In fact, the dyson waranty is null and void if the user does not follow the rigorous filter maintenance.  Truth now be told, dyson should have included the new filter maintenance schedule on all its dyson models fro the very beginning.  DC07/14 too.   The DC07 filtration is no better than the latest dyson's filtering.  You believed the dyson myth that claimed it was.  You refused to believe the truth:  All vacuum filters clog.  Even dyson.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

Next to the farcical claim that dysons don't clog, is the claim that a 12 pound lightweight household vacuum needs a huge ball wheel to make it easier to steer and pivot.  It's laughable. 

Fool me once, shame on dyson.  Fool me twice, shame on me.  

American consumers are not fools.  They are very unforgiving despite what you may think.

Carmine D.

YOU just have to keep telling the lie often enough and people start thinking its the truth,[neocons like misguided and unregulated propaganda]

dyson ran his vacuum marketing campain no different than the now defunked FANTOM camp.

Now you can take this overpriced, underperforming, overhyped,poor excuse for a cleaning device and sell it back in the good old U.K.[if they let you].

sincerely

THE-MOLE