Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Some observations -

• Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
• Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  
• Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  
• For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  
• The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  
• The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 
  

Just wrote:

Prior to December this was a very civil board.  Then Carmine joined.  From that point it took less than 30 days to lock a topic.  He has also been a major contributor to getting an entire site closed.  Problem is he is living the past and can't comprehend how he was passed by.

In case you do not know, Carmine parted the sea, predicted a flood and provided a ship to save all animals, taught Fred Astair to dance,  taught Joe Louis to box.  No matter what the occurance Carmine always reminds the world that he predicted it way in advance.  He predicted that Dyson would be out of business two years ago.  He predicted that the Hoover Fusion then the Hoover Z would be the next bagless standards.   They are long gone.  There were a few others that he claimed would unseat Dyson in BB and other stores.  It ain't happened.

I see he has a puppet on this site also.  Perhaps he and mole should get in the laundry business.  Both seem to be washed up.

 I really like Dyson!!

Hi  H.S.,remember me?.I invented the wheel........

MOLE

mole wrote:

Yes, and then Carmine made it round so it would roll.  Of course I suspect the two of you also invented electricity because you anticipated a future machine that would suck up dirt..  It would initially be cranked to turn the fan and suck air.  Of course it would not work properly without a light and that required electricity.

HARDSELL wrote:

I have to say that I stopped reading the old board because of the bashing that took place by several members… The saddest part was that a lot (but not all) of the commotion was started by Carmine…

When the old forum closed it was like a breath of fresh air to come onto the new forum, even if for me it was only to read and not post…

I often thought the same thing that you did Hardsell… It was so nice without Carmine stirring the pot. I was actually glad that he had not found his way onto this forum, but knew it would only be a matter of time before someone ruined it for everyone else and led him back…

So once again, most people will stop coming to this forum to actually ask questions – Now that there is a new host of the board, maybe someone will step up and address the actual problem and see about having the problem removed once and for all…

Dan

Danorob wrote:
Dan;

This forum is the same, just using a different program.

Remember to keep your comments/opinions regarding administration/moderator off the posts(same as other forum).  As for "most people will stop coming"-NOT!  It has been the same people for quite some time now, just like the former forum.  There are quite a few who return almost every hour.  We have seen very few visitors posting, even before Carmine.  BTW, this seems to be one of the most active of the few discussion boards here.

Now, bring this thread back to topic and take it off eachother.

HARDSELL wrote:
HardSell:

Most consumers pick the lowest priced machine that meets or exceeds their needs, so why wouldn't CR use a similar criteria.   This particular Hoover is a great bargain at $60.   Given CR's positive emissions rating on this machine, it is a little disingenuous to refer to it as a dust spewer.  Whether it's a wise strategy on Hoover/TTI's part to have such a good performer topping it's more expensive siblings, I don't know.  But that has nothing to do with CR's ratings.  Unless you have lifetime/repair data on this particular Hoover Tempo to share, which I'm sure you don't, you don't really have a leg to stand on when discussing the lifetime of these products - or calling it disposable.   Many people manage quite nicely with their $60 Hoover Tempos.   Assuming that they are not abused, I suspect that most of these Hoovers will still be in service ten years down the road.

The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has great reviews on Amazon.com

Severus wrote:

Picking the lowest price machine that meets minimum standards for the consumer does not make that the best overall machine.   If that was true the Ford Taurus and F-150 Ford trucks would be the best autos ever built.

I simply asked if extra filtration was needed since Hoover has been known to spew dust.  I haven't read the latest report.  Was a measurement given for the amount of dust released back into the air?   Have you used a Tempo on tile or wood floors?  My money says it will blow more dust across the room than it vacuums up.  Dyson is excellent for these types of floors. 

Carmine is the one who eluded to replacing the Tempo every year.  For the past 3 years or more he has repeatedly stated that the Dyson will not last.  Maybe you should ask for his lifetiome data.   I used a DC07 for 3 years with absolutely no parts replaced or any other problems.  Try 3 years without replacing belts and bags on other brands. 

Most any vacuum that is not abused should last 10 years.  Big question is how will it perform during that time span?   Good example is the $700  broom with a 21 year warranty.

Hardsell,

Thanks for what you said about the timeline and the trouble they cause.

 You should know this baiting cheap shot and calling you “disingenuous” by someone called “Severus” is indeed “Mole”.  Mole is also “DysonIsOverated”.  He floats around this forum using the Severus or Mole typically.  Most telling, Mole uses children’s fantasy characters from “Harry Potter” for all 3 of his Member profile personas.  Creapy?

 

Dan,

Yes, it is already happening, Good people here are attacked frequently by 2 individuals or “Internet Trolls”.  Lately these good people are posting less and less.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB,  thanks for the heads up.  I was wondering if mole chose that name because he resembles one of those little creatures that always hides underground and roots in his own excrement.  Considered by most to be a pain in the a$$ and useless.