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DysonInventsBig


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Dyson, In The News...
Original Message   Sep 11, 2007 5:40 pm

This message was modified Jan 29, 2008 by DysonInventsBig



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M00seUK


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #12   Jan 30, 2008 6:17 am
CarmineD wrote:
My sense is this article is comparable to a paid for TV infomercial but in newsprint format.  Dyson is excellent at these innovative advertising techniques and methods.  Almost looks authentic rather than a dyson originated, sponsored, and paid for advertisement.  Thank you for sharing.

Carmine D.


Agree.. Although I'd doubt that it's paid for - it looks like someone has published a press release word for word. It's fair from an interesting read.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #13   Jan 30, 2008 7:31 am
M00seUK wrote:
Agree.. ...It's fair from an interesting read.

Hello M00seUK

But is it true?  I would suggest that a press release usually credits the news source/service to avoid allegations of plagiarism and fault in the event of misrepresentations of facts and events.  This does not.  Looks like a paid advertisement to me.

Interesting reads do not necessarily equate with truth and facts.  There is a distinction between news [facts/truth] and product advertising.  In this particular case, I would ask to see the underlying details for some of the grandiose statements made in the guise of news [read facts/truth of interest to most readers].  This is boastful dyson advertising, spin and sales puffing.  Not truth and facts relevant to newsworthy events.  As such, it is in the fairest sense of the word "advertising" and not news reporting.  This is not the latter by any stretch of the imagination.  It is the former [advertising] sprinkled with some dyson/China news.  My view.  Who cares?  If it were an advertisment, I'd skip over it. 

Again, kudos to dyson for giving the 'appearance' of news for its product advertising.  Most readers especially those who cotton to everything dyson will quote these advertising claims as the gospel in one breadth and impugn and slander Consumer Reports in the other.  It's the gospel [good news], but the gospel according to jaydee.  Is that good news?  Maybe for jaydee fans.  Not me.  I want facts.  Not puffing.

Some like me would maintain and with good cause that advertising under a veil of news reporting is on par and/or worse than product 'bashing.'  Why?  It is deceptive, false, misleading and disingenuous.  [The latter--bashing--is not  the same as a factual and objective checklist of comparative features and specifications among two or more products [same brand and/or competitor brands] to present customers with facts and information for their product purchases.  "Bashing' in the dictionary sense of the word.  Compare the dictionary definitions of news, facts, and truth with that of advertising, spin, claims and buffing.  The differences are easy to understand and self-explanatory.  Never the twain shall meet.  Except in dyson ads.

Carmine D.   

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M00seUK


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #14   Jan 30, 2008 9:01 am

I just think it appears that Dyson's PR have issued a press release indicating that they're planning to launch in China soon. This had been picked up by a reporter for this 'Sina' web site, who have seemingly published it almost word for word. I used to work for a news gathering agency - we collected two pieces of information for each news item 1-Content (i.e. the press release) 2-The analysis. We'd then categorise it so that our subscribers could find it. Imagine if (say) a TV magazine just published page after page of press releases from the networks... boring!

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #15   Jan 30, 2008 9:31 am
M00seUK wrote:

I just think it appears that Dyson's PR have issued a press release indicating that they're planning to launch in China soon. This had been picked up by a reporter for this 'Sina' web site, who have seemingly published it almost word for word. I used to work for a news gathering agency - we collected two pieces of information for each news item 1-Content (i.e. the press release) 2-The analysis. We'd then categorise it so that our subscribers could find it. Imagine if (say) a TV magazine just published page after page of press releases from the networks... boring!

M00seUK:


We have a wonderful saying here in the US and I like it:  Just the facts, please.  IMHO keep the fluff.  But China being what it is, dyson has the perfect [read no regard for standards] venue for pushing the advertising envelope as newsworthy events and facts.

Carmine D.

mole


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #16   Jan 30, 2008 10:02 am
Just 1 question for the innovative company,and their top shelf management,

It seems to me that no one really wants to work for them,please feel free to look at jobs they offer on their u.s.a website[under job opportuities at dyson].

What they offer are slave labor rates.

And you dont have to know anything about the business,because anyone that knows the business knows what a overpromised and underdeliver to the consumer they are.

MOLE

Airblade


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #17   Jan 30, 2008 12:39 pm
mole wrote:
Just 1 question for the innovative company,and their top shelf management,

It seems to me that no one really wants to work for them,please feel free to look at jobs they offer on their u.s.a website[under job opportuities at dyson].

What they offer are slave labor rates.

And you dont have to know anything about the business,because anyone that knows the business knows what a overpromised and underdeliver to the consumer they are.

MOLE


Mole,
Dyson continues to grow at a very quick pace.  New positions are added all the time in order to keep up with this growth.  More SKU's and accounts mean more labor is needed in the field and at the corporate office. 

BTW, look at all the open positions for Apple, Google or any other popular company........does this mean no one wants to work for them?
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #18   Jan 30, 2008 2:45 pm
Airblade wrote:
Mole,
Dyson continues to grow at a very quick pace.  New positions are added all the time in order to keep up with this growth.  More SKU's and accounts mean more labor is needed in the field and at the corporate office. 

BTW, look at all the open positions for Apple, Google or any other popular company........does this mean no one wants to work for them?



I'll share my personal experiences with the open positions for employees at many of the Casinos/Hotels in Las Vegas.  The mainstay of employment in LV aside from construction and retail positions is gambling and the support services: Such as waitresses, bartenders [which I am certified to be here in LV] card dealers, cooks, servers, cleaning staff, and so on.  The open positions that are advertised are rarely if ever filled by applicants who submit their resumes.  They are filled from within by persons already on board and looking for career advancement, and/or WORD OF MOUTH recommendations by current employees for friends, relatives, and family members. 

I have met a number of dyson reps who are housewives who used dysons [women are probably the major target market for dyson vacuums].  And they petitioned dyson as a satisfied customer and user of dyson products for employment and were hired. 

I know that the majority of the line workers at the dyson Malaysia plant who produce the dyson products are contractors and subcontractors of dyson and not dyson employees.  Why?  Cheaper to hire and fire.  Best and lowest bidder gets the work.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #19   Jan 30, 2008 5:46 pm
mole wrote:
Just 1 question for the innovative company,and their top shelf management,

It seems to me that no one really wants to work for them,please feel free to look at jobs they offer on their u.s.a website[under job opportuities at dyson].

What they offer are slave labor rates.

And you dont have to know anything about the business,because anyone that knows the business knows what a overpromised and underdeliver to the consumer they are.

MOLE


Airblade,

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The little bit I’ve read at Dyson and Monster, Dyson looks good and dare I say fun, nice benefits too.  The part-timer starts out at $15 per hr.  Not bad.        DIB

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #20   Jan 30, 2008 7:02 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Airblade,

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The little bit I’ve read at Dyson and Monster, Dyson looks good and dare I say fun, nice benefits too.  The part-timer starts out at $15 per hr.  Not bad.        DIB


That's more than a substitute teacher makes an hour in Las Vegas!  And probably most areas around the country. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #21   Feb 4, 2008 5:38 pm
CarmineD wrote:

I have met a number of dyson reps who are housewives who used dysons [women are probably the major target market for dyson vacuums].  And they petitioned dyson as a satisfied customer and user of dyson products for employment and were hired. 

Carmine D.



The last one I met [dyson rep] at a SEARS store here in Las Vegas about 6 months ago was such a dyson rep.  No previous vacuum experience except as a housewife.  She has been replaced since by another woman.  One of the biggest complaints that the store staff had with her was the need to teach her about the current competition and the inherent dyson products' shortcomings.  Apparently, I'm told, she got neither during her dyson training as a dyson product rep. 

Carmine D. 

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