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M00seUK


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Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:59 pm
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DC18


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Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #7   Jan 17, 2008 4:40 pm
True adding the DDM would push up price point.  Should sell well if slightly less than the DC20, the Animal DC22 is not a bad price either!

DC18

M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #8   Jan 17, 2008 4:54 pm
Well, I'm certainly stumping down my cash for 'Baby' when it hits the shops. I live in the city in a place with wood floors throughout and something like this is certainly needed, especially in the new builds - they have next to no storage space to keep a vacuum.
DC18


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Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #9   Jan 17, 2008 5:31 pm
You will have to let us know what the Dyson baby is like M00seUK when you get one!
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #10   Jan 17, 2008 5:53 pm

Moose, Thank You!

.

Dyson Baby:  I have seen the DC12 called Baby on an Asian blog but I thought it was nickname people gave their DC12.  A search shows Dyson registered the DC12 Baby here.  The DC22 Baby-Animal lists a turbine nozzle, but the hose looks to be electrified.        DIB

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #11   Jan 17, 2008 7:26 pm
Not a good time for "baby" to be born.  Even a dyson baby.  Read it and weep.  It's often said that timing is everything in business.  Dyson's timing IMHO couldn't be worse.  It doesn't look good for the home team dyson fans. 

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080117/wall_street.html?.v=51

AP
Stocks Extend Plunge; Dow Falls 306
Thursday January 17, 6:14 pm ET
By Tim Paradis, AP Business Writer
Stocks Extend Plunge As Manufacturing Index Falls; Bond Insurers Fall Amid Fears of Losses

NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street extended its 2008 plunge Thursday, sending the Dow Jones industrials down 306 points and to their lowest level since last March after a regional Federal Reserve report showed a sharp and unexpected decline in manufacturing activity. Downgrades of key bond insurance companies added to the market's black mood, with investors fearing an escalation of months of credit market problems.

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The Dow lost nearly 2.5 percent, giving the index its worst three-day percentage decline since October 2002. The Standard & Poor's 500, the index closely watched by market professionals, fell nearly 3 percent Thursday. The Dow, S&P 500 and the Nasdaq composite index have now given back all of the gains they achieved in 2007.

Stocks opened higher but quickly gave up their gains after the Philadelphia Federal Reserve said its survey of regional manufacturing activity registered a negative 20.9 from a revised reading of negative 1.6 in December. The latest number came in well short of what Wall Street had been expecting and underscored the seriousness of the economic worries that have gripped both Wall Street and Washington in recent weeks.

Credit concerns also dogged Wall Street after rating agency Moody's Investors Service placed bond insurer Ambac Assurance Corp. on review for a possible downgrade. That possibility alarmed investors because it would place all bonds insured by Ambac on review as well. Wall Street are concerned that bond insurers would be unable to absorb a spike in claims.

Investors' fears of a slowing economy, the consequence of a months-long housing and credit market crisis, dominated trading, as they have since the start of the year.

"The Philadelphia Fed just announced dreadful numbers," said John O'Donoghue, co-head of equities at Cowen & Co. He said if you look back at Philadelphia Fed data for similar numbers, it takes you back to the 2001 to 2002 recession.

"It's not rocket science -- the economy is slowing dramatically, and it's being reflected in economic reports."

The Dow, which had been up more than 50 points early in the session, closed down 306.95, or 2.46 percent, at 12,159.21.

The Dow is now off 8.33 percent for the year; there have been just 12 trading days so far in 2008, but the index's frequent triple-digit losses have now forced it to give back its 2007 gains. The Dow had its lowest close since it ended the March 16, 2007, session at 12,110.41.

The Dow's decline also left it about 150 points above 12,000, a level it hasn't closed below since November 2006.

The broader market indicators also plummeted. The S&P 500 index lost 39.95, or 2.91 percent, closing at 1,333.25, and leaving it was a year-to-date loss of 9.2 percent, while the Nasdaq dropped 47.69, or 1.99 percent, to 2,346.90, giving it a 2008 deficit of 11.51 percent.

Thursday brought the lowest close for the S&P 500 since October 2006 and the worst for the Nasdaq since March of last year.

Declining issues outnumbered advancers by more than 5 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange, where consolidated volume came to a heavy 5.41 billion shares compared with 5.25 billion traded Wednesday.

Bond prices rose as stocks fell and anxious investors sought the safety of government-issued securities. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite its price, fell to 3.63 percent from 3.68 percent late Wednesday. The dollar was mixed against other major currencies.

The Chicago Board Options Exchange's volatility index, known as the VIX, and often referred to as the "fear index," jumped nearly 17 percent Thursday.

Light, sweet crude fell 71 cents to settle at $90.13 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange after Bernanke's prediction of slower economic growth this year. Slowing growth could dampen demand for oil.

The Philadelphia manufacturing reading caught Wall Street by surprise -- igniting fears that the economy is slowing precipitously and that policymakers might be too late in contemplating aid.

Economists had expected the Philadelphia index would come in at a negative 1.5, according to Dow Jones Newswires. Instead, the negative 20.9 figure was the weakest since October 2001 when the economy was reeling from the shock of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Jim Herrick, manager of equity trading at Baird & Co., contends that the Philadelphia Fed reading and other recent negative economic reports indicate the economy is likely in a downturn.

Other economic reports added to investors' glum mood. The Commerce Department said housing starts plunged 14 percent to 1.01 million in December, marking the weakest pace of home building in more than 16 years. In addition, permits to build new homes dropped 8 percent last month to 1.07 million, the lowest level since 1993.

The week's steady flow of news, much of which has dented investor sentiment, has led to a growing chorus of calls for the Fed to cut rates. The Fed's monetary policy committee will meet Jan. 29-30 and is widely expected to lower its Fed funds target from the current 4.25 percent level. Bernanke on Thursday reiterated recent signals that the central bank will reduce rates for a fourth straight time.

Some on Wall Street have called for the Fed to intervene sooner with steep rate cuts.

The economic concerns come in a week in which some of Wall Street's biggest names have posted huge losses following bad bets on mortgage investments. Financial shares fell sharply Thursday after the reports have made clear that there is also increasing weakness in home equity and other consumer banking operations.

Merrill Lynch & Co. on Thursday posted a massive loss that underscored the depth of the economy's credit problems. The world's largest brokerage said it lost $9.91 billion in the fourth quarter, hurt by big write-downs from investments and trades battered by tight credit conditions.

John Thain, the new chief executive at Merrill, said he believes the red ink will constitute the bulk of the company's write-downs from its subprime mortgage exposure. But he would not speculate about what 2008 might hold in store in other areas. Earlier this week, Merrill secured a new round of capital infusions from foreign funds.

Merrill fell $5.64, or 10 percent, to $49.45.

Moody's announcement that it will review Ambac came after the insurer booked a $5.4 billion write-down on its credit derivative portfolio during the fourth quarter.

Ambac plunged $6.73, or 52 percent, to $6.24, while Ambac rival MBIA Inc. fell $4.18, or 31 percent, to $9.22. First Horizon National Corp. fell $2.43, or 13 percent, to $16.48 after Standard & Poor's Ratings Services lowered its rating on the bank's long-term credit.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 19.34, or 2.76 percent, to 680.57.

Overseas, Japan's Nikkei stock average closed up 2.07 percent. Britain's FTSE 100 finished down 0.68 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 0.78 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 1.31 percent.

New York Stock Exchange: http://www.nyse.com

Nasdaq Stock Market: http://www.nasdaq.com


Carmine D.

This message was modified Jan 17, 2008 by CarmineD
Motorhead


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Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #12   Jan 17, 2008 7:50 pm
Hi DIB,

I'd say the hose is electrified to power the controls, even though you did mention it has an air-driven nozzle.  But I wonder if a motorized power nozzle would work.

Just a guess.
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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #13   Jan 17, 2008 8:20 pm

Motorhead,

 

In comparing the two canisters, (Japanese and UK photos) they almost look identical.  Only upon close inspection do you see slightly different wands and hoses.  The nozzles look the same on both photos.  Is not having a power nozzle in the UK a good thing?        DIB

 

UK:   http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC22-ANIMAL

Japan:  http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000Z9YOH6/pasoconeco-kitchen-22

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Acerone


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 986

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #14   Jan 17, 2008 8:24 pm
So no Digital Motor used in the latest models?
DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #15   Jan 17, 2008 8:28 pm
I was just going to say no DDM in any of the new models by the looks of it!  Looking at the price points of the UK versions of the DC22 Baby Dyson the DDM and power nozzle does not look like they are on this model or that would push the price point up!  They are both cheaper than the DC21 (UK) model!

DC18

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #16   Jan 18, 2008 7:37 am
The DC22 baby cann might have some appeal here in the USA.  Price and performance are the keys to success.  CR will take the baby dyson cann through the obstacle cleaning courses and report the results.  Let's wait to see what CR says before it is declared a vacuum icon for the ages [like some of its predecessors].  Timing is everything.  It may be too late for dyson to capture the baby cann market in the USA except among jaydee fans. 

Carmine D.

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