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Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:59 pm
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mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #59   Jul 14, 2008 9:04 am
Ahh, yes and make it as easy as possible for the consumer to use,

A big point is that manufactures tend to get so caught up in high tech,that they forget about the customer and [USER BENEFITS].

How many times have you heard customers complain about kirbys weight and attachment useage?

Another point of intrest to me is that [DO people still have shag carpeting?],

MOLE

dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #60   Jul 14, 2008 10:47 am
mole wrote:

Another point of intrest to me is that [DO people still have shag carpeting?],

MOLE


Sadly, shag is making a bit of a comeback.   Lets just hope it's short lived.

Dusty
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #61   Jul 14, 2008 12:47 pm

Hey Carmine Man,

At the end of the day it is about physics and who puts forth (the basics) a vacuum that best uses
”in the public domain” 1)  off the shelf parts and/or 2) designs.  I am fully aware it takes many individual lengths to build a strong chain.  Dyson simply removed the weakest length…  Suction loss due to a clogged bag (and filter).

 .

Mole,

I answered your riddle within the framework of your post and no response?

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DIB


Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #62   Jul 14, 2008 1:52 pm
Are you sure you didn't mean Festus, MO?  I think there's a guy there who has every model of Oreck in his collection... 



mole wrote:
You know what H.S. i really did have an ORECK i won one in a dealer contest, i sold it to someone in Springfield Missouri, i think it was called the vac shack..............

mole


The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #63   Jul 14, 2008 2:59 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hey Carmine Man,



Hey Mr. DIB's:

I like that but prefer:  Hey, Carmine D. Vacuum Man.  Now you're talking physics and chemistry combined! 

It's always funny to read dyson fans' posts.  It's as tho the vacuum industry was in the dark ages until dyson suddenly appeared and rescued it.  Not quite.  Not even close.  In fact just the contrary.  

Dyson has a rough road to hoe.  With the competition like HOOVER, BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL {and yes even EUREKA} copying it and selling for less, dyson with its high prices is destined for extinction.  Especially in a deep recession and down global market with soaring oil prices.

One quote from dualcyclone/motor [don't know which] that I agree with [surprise, surprise] is this: Consumers don't remember who did it first, they remember who copied the best and sold it for less. 

 Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 14, 2008 by CarmineD
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #64   Jul 14, 2008 4:09 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hey Mr. DIB's:

I like that but prefer:  Hey, Carmine D. Vacuum Man.  Now you're talking physics and chemistry combined! 

It's always funny to read dyson fans' posts.  It's as tho the vacuum industry was in the dark ages until dyson suddenly appeared and rescued it.  Not quite.  Not even close.  In fact just the contrary.  

Dyson has a rough road to hoe.  With the competition like HOOVER, BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL {and yes even EUREKA} copying it and selling for less, dyson with its high prices is destined for extinction.  Especially in a deep recession and down global market with soaring oil prices.

One quote from dualcyclone/motor [don't know which] that I agree with [surprise, surprise] is this: Consumers don't remember who did it first, they remember who copied the best and sold it for less. 

 Carmine D.


Hey Carmine D., Vacuum Man,

 

There is a sub-culture of vacuum dealers and collectors that cannot get past James Dyson’s legitimacy in the industry, all the while Dyson has been credited in history as the one (his team too) who brought radically commercialized changes to the vacuum cleaner.  Dyson and Dyson alone upped the game of vacuum manufacturing, no brag, just factual history.  It’s funny to see so many vacuum dealers and their buddies cling to and sell the past as if it were new and/or the only or best solution to an old problem (vacuuming).        DIB




dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #65   Jul 14, 2008 5:51 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hey Carmine D., Vacuum Man,

 

There is a sub-culture of vacuum dealers and collectors that cannot get past James Dyson’s legitimacy in the industry, all the while Dyson has been credited in history as the one (his team too) who brought radically commercialized changes to the vacuum cleaner.  Dyson and Dyson alone upped the game of vacuum manufacturing, no brag, just factual history.  It’s funny to see so many vacuum dealers and their buddies cling to and sell the past as if it were new and/or the only or best solution to an old problem (vacuuming).        DIB


It's called the Old Boys Club and sadly, every industry has it.

Dusty
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #66   Jul 14, 2008 8:49 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hey Mr. DIB's:

I like that but prefer:  Hey, Carmine D. Vacuum Man.  Now you're talking physics and chemistry combined! 

It's always funny to read dyson fans' posts.  It's as tho the vacuum industry was in the dark ages until dyson suddenly appeared and rescued it.  Not quite.  Not even close.  In fact just the contrary.  

Dyson has a rough road to hoe.  With the competition like HOOVER, BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL {and yes even EUREKA} copying it and selling for less, dyson with its high prices is destined for extinction.  Especially in a deep recession and down global market with soaring oil prices.

One quote from dualcyclone/motor [don't know which] that I agree with [surprise, surprise] is this: Consumers don't remember who did it first, they remember who copied the best and sold it for less. 

 Carmine D.



Do I understand you?  Vacuums have basically been the same for 50 or more years.  Maybe a few color changes here and there.  Dyson has now been copied by almost all manufacturers and yet Dyson did nothing to change the industry.  Why didn't they just continue with bags that clogs and cause suction loss if Dyson didn't get the industry off it's ashes.

No doubt Dyson will have to change it's pricing to remain competetive with today's economy, however that is not justivication to imply that Dyson has not revolutionized the vacuum industry.  Your responses are as asinine as usual.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #67   Jul 15, 2008 7:04 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hey Carmine D., Vacuum Man,

 

Dyson and Dyson alone upped the game of vacuum manufacturing, no brag, just factual history.     DIB


Hey DIBster:

Perhaps in the UK, I might partially agree.  Tho the dyson market share declines tell me otherwise.  Dyson competition has gained ground in the UK over the last 4 years and brands will probably surpass dyson's annual share of 28 percent in 2007, if not already. 

In the USA, I can't agree with you on any level.  Not with 10 percent of annual vacuum sales in units [at best and declining].  History is too recent to prove your statement accurate.  Time alone will tell.  If dyson doesn't succumb to the USA industry stalwarts like others have before [Fantom].   A fad that came and went.

Interestingly, in years past dyson sales results were posted here quarterly, semi-annually, and annually.  No more.  What happened?  An indication vacuum history is repeating itself [Fantom].

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 15, 2008 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson's 'Baby' launched
Reply #68   Jul 15, 2008 7:10 am
dusty wrote:
It's called the Old Boys Club and sadly, every industry has it.

Dusty



Hey Duster Man:

It's called the "good old boy's club."  Also known as the experienced, seasoned, been there done that veterans of the industry.  I call us:  "The Old Guard."  There's a saying that youngins like you in the industry should heed:  What you are, we once were, what we are, you'll soon be. 

Carmine D.

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