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M00seUK


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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #58   Jan 21, 2008 6:20 pm
The DC24 on the UK website has been changed to AW120, I'm sure I saw it originally at AW220 to start with.  On the UK Dyson web the bin capacity is 1.4 litres for the DC25 (0.85 litres for the DC24) compared with 1.7 litres for the DC18 Slim.  Although the bin capacity for the DC25 is smaller to the DC18 it looks wider looking at web pictures with the shroud filter bigger on the DC25.   I can not see any core cyclone technology being on the DC24 and DC25!  Both use root 6 - DC24 and root 8 DC25 for a guess!

The Core (level 3) is not exclusive to the DC17 as the DC22 in Japan and the DC22 Baby (UK) both have this technology as well although the Dyson UK web does not say it does for some reason!  A UK catalogue retailor features the DC22 Baby and mentions the core technology.   Putting this technology on thse 2 models may have increased weight plus Dyson may not have developed a scaled down version of this technlogy as yet!  No reason why it can not be achieved!

DC18

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #59   Jan 21, 2008 6:57 pm
Motorhead wrote:
Hi Carmine,

True, yes, but from my experience with the Oreck it didn't seem to do well when the handle was all the way down.  When I vacuum under the beds I want the machine to do as good a job as it would if I was vacuuming carpet in open areas.


Mine works perfectly for both.  Maybe its the handle grip on mine.  I have the old conventional grip that goes all the way down to floor/rug.  In the complete prone position, for under bed vacuuming, the Oreck is on the same level from the rug nozzle to handle grip.  Perhaps, this would not be the case with the ergonomic loop grip.  I don't know since I haven't used it. 

Carmine D. 

iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #60   Jan 21, 2008 10:00 pm
DC18 wrote:
Dyson may not have developed a scaled down version of this technlogy as yet!  No reason why it can not be achieved!

It appears they already have with the DC22; look at how small the entire machine is compared to the DC21 (with the cyclones twice as small). I don't see why they can't design a collection bin based on the DC22 bin for an upright, that is slightly taller, with fewer cyclones. I really don't think Core Separation needs a DDM, especially if it will work with a 200AW DC22 canister and a 220AW DC17 upright with standard motors.

On a side note, does anyone know if a Japanese appliance (I.E. Dyson DC22 DDM Motorhead) will work with American outlets?
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Motorhead


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #61   Jan 21, 2008 10:38 pm
iMacDaddy wrote:
It appears they already have with the DC22; look at how small the entire machine is compared to the DC21 (with the cyclones twice as small). I don't see why they can't design a collection bin based on the DC22 bin for an upright, that is slightly taller, with fewer cyclones. I really don't think Core Separation needs a DDM, especially if it will work with a 200AW DC22 canister and a 220AW DC17 upright with standard motors.

On a side note, does anyone know if a Japanese appliance (I.E. Dyson DC22 DDM Motorhead) will work with American outlets?

Not unless you use a step-down transformer; the voltage in Japan is only 100 volts.  I know a higher voltage will ruin the DDM's control board and possibly take out other components with it...
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #62   Jan 22, 2008 8:10 am
Hi all,

Can't say that I buy into it but here's Lord D's spin on things:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/18/ndyson118.xml

Best,

Venson

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #63   Jan 22, 2008 1:25 pm
Hello Venson:

Thanks.  I don't buy into the dyson drivel.  Couple of things I noted:  First, no prices indicated.  Second, no mention of the launch of the baby dysons in the USA at the VDTA next month.  Why?  The jaydee of years past would have publicized the dyson USA launch at least one month in advance and more likely months in advance. 

In the USA the baby dysons may do okay depending on the price.  Jaydee's philosophy is mark them up as high as possible.  DC18, a lite version of the dyson uprights, for $469.  BBB and LNT have it right.  They typically sell the DC18 for 20 percent off or about $100.  Still despite Airblade's mention years ago that this practice upsets dyson not to mention the retailers who take it on the chin with the dyson MAP.  $369 should be the retail for the DC18 before discounts.  Look at the DC16 for $149.  A joke. 

Baby dysons should also be baby prices not full prices.  But knowing dyson, if and when they come to the US, dyson will mark them up too high.  Even in the best of economic times, US consumers wouldn't give them a second look at the high prices.  Compound the situation with a recession, and vacuum buyers will think: What is dyson thinking? 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jan 22, 2008 by CarmineD
DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #64   Jan 22, 2008 9:55 pm
  < DC24 & DC15 side by side.  For those who do not "Nail Their Dyson's To The Ground", enjoy.  Enlarged view here.

Amazon UK.  Here and here.

This message was modified Jan 22, 2008 by DysonInventsBig



M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #65   Jan 23, 2008 3:40 am
Super hi-res photo of the above here :-

http://item.slide.com/r/1/0/i/_E55sox20z_cmTYdGuOKk_93RdR3PuZB/

It shows it's construction looking a lot more simplified.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #66   Jan 23, 2008 8:40 am
Hey Guys:

Nice pics!  Really.

How about one with the Ball, Slim, Mommie and baby dyson ball models?  Showing the evolution of the ball technolgy by dyson.  And if you are really energetic and resourceful, the major features: Like year of launch, Price, Cord length, Weight, and Dimensions and maybe Air Watts.  With the assumption that the new dyson baby ball models: Mommie and baby will make it to the USA sometime soon.  And price estimates on the baby ball dysons based on the UK amounts.

Just a thought from a non-dyson fan to consider for the Forum readers. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jan 23, 2008 by CarmineD
mole


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #67   Jan 23, 2008 9:00 am
How about the warranty?

Hows the parts availability?

is the customer service line up to snuff?

Will consumer reports like it?

It should be priced at about $179.00,to $199.00,to compete with the other box store cleaners.

MOLE

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