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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #479   May 26, 2009 9:03 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I'll say it again.  Dyson is following Hoover's footsteps.  Keep introducing new models that are inferior to the previous ones.  At least Dyson phases the old models out.  Hoover simply changed model # or name and called it new.  With exception of some morons purchases sales dropped and they are history.


Still wrong HS.  Don't compare HOOVER to your favorite brand as an excuse for dyson's shortcomings.  Dyson is solely owned and operated by Sir James.  He's at fault fof the problems with too many models that confuse the consumers.  The fault was never HOOVER it was MAYTAG management.   Despite the priority that MAYTAG always gave to its homegrown washers and driers, at the expense of vacuums, HOOVER held its own.  HOOVER's models and brand name triumph over many others over the years and still.  HOOVER, even under MAYTAG's poor tutelage, consistently beat out your favorite brand in the Consumer Reports ranks and ratings.  And HOOVER still does beat your brand in performance and sales. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #480   May 27, 2009 5:03 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I'll say it again.  Dyson is following Hoover's footsteps.  Keep introducing new models that are inferior to the previous ones.  At least Dyson phases the old models out.  Hoover simply changed model # or name and called it new.  With exception of some morons purchases sales dropped and they are history.

CarmineD wrote:
Still wrong HS.  Don't compare HOOVER to your favorite brand as an excuse for dyson's shortcomings.  Dyson is solely owned and operated by Sir James.  He's at fault fof the problems with too many models that confuse the consumers.  The fault was never HOOVER it was MAYTAG management.   Despite the priority that MAYTAG always gave to its homegrown washers and driers, at the expense of vacuums, HOOVER held its own.  HOOVER's models and brand name triumph over many others over the years and still.  HOOVER, even under MAYTAG's poor tutelage, consistently beat out your favorite brand in the Consumer Reports ranks and ratings.  And HOOVER still does beat your brand in performance and sales. 

Carmine D.


What’s confusing about Dyson.com's 2 steerable’s and 3 standard upright, 1 canister lineup? 

Buy contrast, Hoover.com has 30 uprights and 8 canisters.


DIB


CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #481   May 27, 2009 6:08 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
What’s confusing about Dyson.com's 2 steerable’s and 3 standard upright, 1 canister lineup? 

Buy contrast, Hoover.com has 30 uprights and 8 canisters.


DIB



DIB:

HOOVER is a mainstream seller.  Always has been.  It's understandable to have a full and complete product line.  Dyson is a niche vacuum which can't sell to mainstream America thru big box stores in bad economic times.  Dyson lost market share in 2007 and 2008 to all the brands that it competes with in the big box stores.   Same for 2009, dyson sales are tanking in all the major retailers so far this year.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #482   May 27, 2009 7:05 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

HOOVER is a mainstream seller.  Always has been.  It's understandable to have a full and complete product line.  Dyson is a niche vacuum which can't sell to mainstream America thru big box stores in bad economic times.  Dyson lost market share in 2007 and 2008 to all the brands that it competes with in the big box stores.   Same for 2009, dyson sales are tanking in all the major retailers so far this year.

Carmine D.


If Hoover sales was so great why did they go belly up?
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #483   May 27, 2009 7:20 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
If Hoover sales was so great why did they go belly up?


Somebody has to sure up your favorite brand, which is tanking fast.  BTW, HARDSELL if your peruse the BH financials, you note that the Oracle of Omaha has an investment interest in TTI, the parent of HOOVER.  Yet another laugh at your expense!

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #484   May 27, 2009 9:56 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Somebody has to sure up your favorite brand, which is tanking fast.  BTW, HARDSELL if your peruse the BH financials, you note that the Oracle of Omaha has an investment interest in TTI, the parent of HOOVER.  Yet another laugh at your expense!

Carmine D.



Another laugh on you Carmine.  You sould not answer the question so you try to twist out of it.

Why didn't he buy Hoover when it was failing? Maybe he knew better than you that Hoover was doomed.

Now, can you answer the original question.  I think not.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #485   May 28, 2009 6:29 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Another laugh on you Carmine.  You sould not answer the question so you try to twist out of it.

Why didn't he buy Hoover when it was failing? Maybe he knew better than you that Hoover was doomed.

Now, can you answer the original question.  I think not.


Wrong again, HS.  It's getting to be habit forming with you.  He did you one better.  Buffett watched the TTI HOOVER WP deal crystalize, and others too, then invested in TTI.  Smart money man.  Get's more for his investment.  In an economic tsunami like this one, you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket.  You want to diversify your investments.  Like RC Willey, Buffett's latest purchase.  A retailer.  Best in the west.  Appliances, rug and floor coverings, electronics, furniture.  One stop shop!  Did I mention which vacuum RC Willey gifts with a purchase of $1000 in rugs?  No?  Forgot?  HOOVER TEMPO.  HOOVER even made a special edition just for RC Willey and this purpose.  Are you beginning to connect the dots? 

Maybe you should take notes, so you can go back over and review from time to time to refresh your memory!

Carmine D.

This message was modified May 28, 2009 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #486   May 28, 2009 7:38 am
HARDSELL wrote:
If Hoover sales was so great why did they go belly up?


Carmine, I know about WB and his strategy on investments.  Do you know the answer to my original question?

Pay attention and quit twisting.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #487   May 28, 2009 7:59 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Carmine, I know about WB and his strategy on investments.  Do you know the answer to my original question?

Pay attention and quit twisting.


Wrong again.  HARDSELL, if you truly know WB's investment strategy, you would never have asked a "non-soup" question like: Why did HOOVER go belly up?  It's a logical contradiction.  Some other dyson promoters here suffer from the same too.  You are so focused on promoting the dyson bagless bin propaganda, that you forget about the importance and significance of the vacuum's performance and price.  Hence, the reasons that it took the good engineer too long to scrub the farcical clutch and add height adjustments to the uprights.  Self-adjusting nozzle head?  Yeah right.  HOOVER went down that road over 40 years ago.  What was James thinking?  Or was he?

Carmine D

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #488   May 28, 2009 2:29 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Wrong again.  HARDSELL, if you truly know WB's investment strategy, you would never have asked a "non-soup" question like: Why did HOOVER go belly up?  It's a logical contradiction.  Some other dyson promoters here suffer from the same too.  You are so focused on promoting the dyson bagless bin propaganda, that you forget about the importance and significance of the vacuum's performance and price.  Hence, the reasons that it took the good engineer too long to scrub the farcical clutch and add height adjustments to the uprights.  Self-adjusting nozzle head?  Yeah right.  HOOVER went down that road over 40 years ago.  What was James thinking?  Or was he?

Carmine D


The question was about Hoover.  Not Dyson.  No doubt you can't answer this one. 
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