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M00seUK
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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm |
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HARDSELL
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #460 May 25, 2009 12:50 pm |
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The issues HS are that the supposedly latest and greatest dyson ball technology models are being advertised and sold by retailers at prices that are twice as low than the once sacred dyson MAP. As I recall you and others espoused here that dyson's policing of its MAP among retailers is dyson's pricing forte. What happened? Some here now, like me, are even calling for dyson to drop the ball line completely from its lineup. It's not just me anymore. That's quite a twist that you missed. Carmine D.
The issue here is that you have commented numerous that consumer reviews are practically meaningless and likely bogus. Of course we all know that you twist those statements if you think you can use them to your advantage.
I never made comments on MAP pricing. There are too many ways to get around pricing. I missed nothing. Try to follow us.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #461 May 25, 2009 2:00 pm |
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The issue here is that you have commented numerous that consumer reviews are practically meaningless and likely bogus. Of course we all know that you twist those statements if you think you can use them to your advantage. I never made comments on MAP pricing. There are too many ways to get around pricing. I missed nothing. Try to follow us.
You missed alot HS. You have kow towed CR over its ratings. Why? In part, because it has consistently given dyson fair to middlin ratings. The worse of the dyson ratings from CR go to dyson DC15. UNTIL, the DC24, which rated even worse than a DC15. Not yet up to bat with CR is dyson's DC25 ball, tho as noted it is discounted well below MAP by many retailers who are stuck with it. If the CR rating for dyson's DC25 is as bad as the previous dyson ball models, dyson will scrub the ball technology from the line up. That's one that even you can't twist with a favorable spin.
Carmine D.
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Model2
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #463 May 25, 2009 3:46 pm |
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Speaking of Dyson and $#%*...the DC15 All Floors has made a mysterious reappearance onto Dyson's UK website line-up, priced higher than the (in my opinion) vastly superior DC25 Animal. However, the DC15's marked as 'out of stock' Until recently, the website's upright line-up had been whittled down to just 3 main models, the DC14, DC24 and DC25, following the discontinuation of the DC07. http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/productcat.asp?category=UPRIGHT Also, the DC27 was due out in the UK in February...it's the end of May, and it's still nowhere to be seen...what's the hold-up? Promotions for it have been running in the Argos catalogue since its intended launch date...
This message was modified May 25, 2009 by Model2
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #466 May 26, 2009 7:02 am |
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That was supposed to say 'Speaking of Dyson and B-a-l-l-s, but apparently I'm being censored for profanity...
Hello Model2:
If you type: "dyson ball" "ball model" "DC15, DC24, DC25 ball" the edits will not kick in. But not to worry, in short order it won't be an issue here anymore. Carmine D.
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #468 May 26, 2009 10:00 am |
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Here is something that I want to bring up; why is there such an abundant amount of refurbished Dyson's out there? I mean, every major online Dyson retailer on the web flaunt their wide selection of factory reconditioned models. I for one would like to know the nature of the returned models (if they are defective, or if customers are simply dissatisfied with their purchase), and how much money Dyson loses on each model (from replacing used parts and selling each unit at a depreciated value). Dyson has reached second best reliability ratings from CR in both upright and canister categories, so are these returns reflecting customer dissatisfaction, or is CR inaccurate in gauging reliability? Perhaps Dyson should follow Apple's lead and implement a similar retail policy that stipulates no customer returns, with direct manufacturer interaction should a defect arise. P.S. - Some may see me as a Dyson antagonist, but I am rather a Dyson realist (I do own a DC23 that I think highly of), meaning that I will call out bull*&$% when I see it.
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Model2
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #469 May 26, 2009 10:34 am |
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Here is something that I want to bring up; why is there such an abundant amount of refurbished Dyson's out there? I mean, every major online Dyson retailer on the web flaunt their wide selection of factory reconditioned models. I for one would like to know the nature of the returned models (if they are defective, or if customers are simply dissatisfied with their purchase), and how much money Dyson loses on each model (from replacing used parts and selling each unit at a depreciated value). Dyson has reached second best reliability ratings from CR in both upright and canister categories, so are these returns reflecting customer dissatisfaction, or is CR inaccurate in gauging reliability? Perhaps Dyson should follow Apple's lead and implement a similar retail policy that stipulates no customer returns, with direct manufacturer interaction should a defect arise.
P.S. - Some may see me as a Dyson antagonist, but I am rather a Dyson realist (I do own a DC23 that I think highly of), meaning that I will call out bull*&$% when I see it.
I can't speak for the US, but over here, most vacuum manufacturers, including Vax and Hoover, two of the three biggest-selling brands, have stickers on their machines which direct their customer to call the company's helpline in the event of a problem, rather than returning it to the store. While Dyson - as far as I can see - do not state this explicity, every model of Dyson sold since the DC01 have had a sticker with the helpline numbers prominently and permanently affixed. If you try to return one to the store, you will be told firmly, 'We can't help you. Call the Dyson helpline.' And they won't budge on this! 
~ However Clean - Hoover Cleaner ~
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