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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #458   May 25, 2009 8:02 am
CarmineD wrote:
Bingo!  HARDSELL, care to comment? 

Carmine D.


Still doing the twist I see.  I already commented and as usual you try to avoid the issue.
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #459   May 25, 2009 8:42 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Still doing the twist I see.  I already commented and as usual you try to avoid the issue.



The issues HS are that the supposedly latest and greatest dyson ball technology models are being advertised and sold by retailers at prices that are twice as low than the once sacred dyson MAP.  As I recall you and others espoused here that dyson's policing of its MAP among retailers is dyson's pricing forte.  What happened?  Some here now, like me, are even calling for dyson to drop the ball line completely from its lineup.  It's not just me anymore.  That's quite a twist that you missed.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #460   May 25, 2009 12:50 pm
CarmineD wrote:
The issues HS are that the supposedly latest and greatest dyson ball technology models are being advertised and sold by retailers at prices that are twice as low than the once sacred dyson MAP.  As I recall you and others espoused here that dyson's policing of its MAP among retailers is dyson's pricing forte.  What happened?  Some here now, like me, are even calling for dyson to drop the ball line completely from its lineup.  It's not just me anymore.  That's quite a twist that you missed.

Carmine D.



The issue here is that you have commented numerous that consumer reviews are practically meaningless and likely bogus. Of course we all know that you twist those statements if you think you can use them to your advantage.

I never made comments on MAP pricing.  There are too many ways to get around pricing. 

I missed nothing.  Try to follow us.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #461   May 25, 2009 2:00 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
The issue here is that you have commented numerous that consumer reviews are practically meaningless and likely bogus. Of course we all know that you twist those statements if you think you can use them to your advantage.

I never made comments on MAP pricing.  There are too many ways to get around pricing. 

I missed nothing.  Try to follow us.



You missed alot HS.  You have kow towed CR over its ratings.  Why?  In part, because it has consistently given dyson fair to middlin ratings.  The worse of the dyson ratings from CR go to dyson DC15.  UNTIL, the DC24, which rated even worse than a DC15.  Not yet up to bat with CR is dyson's DC25 ball, tho as noted it is discounted well below MAP by many retailers who are stuck with it.  If the CR rating for dyson's DC25 is as bad as the previous dyson ball models, dyson will scrub the ball technology from the line up.  That's one that even you can't twist with a favorable spin. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified May 25, 2009 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #462   May 25, 2009 3:35 pm
CarmineD wrote:
You missed alot HS.  You have kow towed CR over its ratings.  Why?  In part, because it has consistently given dyson fair to middlin ratings.  The worse of the dyson ratings from CR go to dyson DC15.  UNTIL, the DC24, which rated even worse than a DC15.  Not yet up to bat with CR is dyson's DC25 ball, tho as noted it is discounted well below MAP by many retailers who are stuck with it.  If the CR rating for dyson's DC25 is as bad as the previous dyson ball models, dyson will scrub the ball technology from the line up.  That's one that even you can't twist with a favorable spin. 

Carmine D.


Consumers use their vacs in a real world.  I trust them more than CR.
Model2


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #463   May 25, 2009 3:46 pm
Speaking of Dyson and $#%*...the DC15 All Floors has made a mysterious reappearance onto Dyson's UK website line-up, priced higher than the (in my opinion) vastly superior DC25 Animal. However, the DC15's marked as 'out of stock'

Until recently, the website's upright line-up had been whittled down to just 3 main models, the DC14, DC24 and DC25, following the discontinuation of the DC07.

http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/productcat.asp?category=UPRIGHT

Also, the DC27 was due out in the UK in February...it's the end of May, and it's still nowhere to be seen...what's the hold-up? Promotions for it have been running in the Argos catalogue since its intended launch date...
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Model2


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #464   May 25, 2009 3:47 pm
That was supposed to say 'Speaking of Dyson and B-a-l-l-s, but apparently I'm being censored for profanity...

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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #465   May 25, 2009 3:48 pm

This message was modified May 25, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #466   May 26, 2009 7:02 am
Model2 wrote:
That was supposed to say 'Speaking of Dyson and B-a-l-l-s, but apparently I'm being censored for profanity...


Hello Model2:

If you type:  "dyson ball"  "ball model"  "DC15, DC24, DC25 ball" the edits will not kick in.  But not to worry, in short order it won't be an issue here anymore. 

Carmine D. 

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #467   May 26, 2009 7:19 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Consumers use their vacs in a real world.  I trust them more than CR.



Like it or not, most consumers read and use CR for purchases.  Even with on-line dyson ratings, that you taut over CR's testing and expertise, are peppered with quotes and paraphrases about the high dyson prices and only fair to average performance.  This is the standard CR criticism in speaking about all the dyson models since 2002.  Alot of fluff and little function.  It's etched in shoppers minds now.  Talk about dysons now and you'll inevitably hear it.

Carmine D.

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