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M00seUK
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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm |
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #427 Jun 25, 2008 8:43 pm |
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DIB: There you go again with your mind readings. You have to tell me where you had that course so I can enroll. I like your definition of wordsmithing too. But I prefer Dusty's. Why? Dusty's is the exact same definition as mine. Word for word. No apology necessary for shooting from the hip [again]. Like calling criticism of the u-bend airway joint just a pot shot at Mr. D, which is not worthy of criticism. Why? Woe is Mr. D, according to you. He had so much to worry about with the launch. WRONG! Shooting from the hip again. It was a major deal breaker for the dyson launch. It was poised to derail the product launch. That's the reason dyson corrected it quick like. A buck item that kills the $500 product sale. Now..........enough diversion. Don't avoid the question any longer. Answer it! Swallow hard. Take a deep breadth. Tell us what you know about the compromised dyson filtering and when you you knew it! Don't fall into the category of liar and/or stupid. Sooner or later the truth comes to light. And the light is shining on you now. Tell the truth. Carmine D.
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dusty
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #428 Jun 25, 2008 10:19 pm |
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Hi Dusty,
Interesting the DC25 isn't in Canada, first time I've heard that. I agree with you that the DC24, while a compact yet powerful machine good for apartments, condos, and such, is limited by its bin capacity in most applications. I've also heard rumors about its brushroll not being aggressive enough either, but I inspected one at Target and didn't see (or feel) anything wrong there.
The DC25 to me would be much more practical out of the two; larger bin capacity and full-width nozzle yet still small enough to be considered a lightweight. As I mentioned in my previous post, it's roughly the size of the DC18 Slim, yet the carrying handle is positioned much lower so it is less awkward to lift.
-MH I believe because Canada is such a heavy canister market Dyson held off on the DC25 and gave us the DC20 (aimed specifically at Quebec) and DC23 in it's standard version as well as an Animal version. To be fair, we sell far more of the cans than the uprights but I look forward to getting the 25 into stock, especially if it handles as well at the DC24. Dusty
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #429 Sep 11, 2008 1:09 pm |
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Consumer Reports in the October 2008 ratings gives the dyson DC24 a drubbing. CR labels it with the same criticism of the original DC15 Ball: Design trumping performance. Pet hair removal comes in at a luckluster Fair and tool use gets a Poor. Of the dysons rated [DC17, DC14, DC07, DC18, DC21, and DC24], the DC24 fares the worse of all, a characteristic it shares with the DC15 CR ratings. CR to date is not impressed with the dyson ball technology with strikes one and two for the DC15 [full size] and DC24 [lightweight]. Still due to come to bat at CR is the DC25 ball. Based on the past record by CR for the dyson ball technology, there are reasons not to be even guardedly optimistic. Tho these ball dysons are just a few months new, most big box stores are already offering gift cards for DC24/DC25 purchases [dyson's latest and greatest] and the 2008 Holiday Season is still a quarter of the year away. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #430 Dec 10, 2008 7:28 am |
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SEARS HOLDINGS, owner of SEARS and K-Mart, is offering the DC24 for $399 BEFORE a 10 percent mail in cash rebate and $50 Giftcard. Net cost to buyer is $309 before taxes. This compares to the recent TARGET DC07 pink for $250. Is a price trend emerging for the upper limits on big box store retailers' vacuums? $250-$300? SEARS has already lowered prices on its brand of vacuums selling the Progressive upright, generally $350, for $250 all the time. SEARS like many retailers is struggling to keep afloat. Biggest asset loss on the balance sheet this year over last is cash and equivalents. An indication that the company is using cash to pay down expenses. Not a good sign for a company's long term viability. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #432 Apr 21, 2009 5:04 pm |
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Curious if any dealers here have any feedback on dyson's DC25 ball for likely repairs under warranty. Visited an authorized dyson dealer in Las Vegas who mentioned a common fault with DC25's. Any news on these from others? He had a half dozen DC07 and DC14 awaiting OK for repairs: All for clutches. Carmine D.
Perhaps dyson dealers are precluded from public forum commenting on dyson technical bulletins and problems under warranty period. Let me try another approach: Again for authorized dyson dealers and/or dyson employees who read and post here: Does dyson have a standing policy in force for all parts/products that fail under the warranty period to be shipped back to the factory/research lab for inspection and/or examination so as to be improved and corrected in current production?
Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #434 Apr 22, 2009 9:05 am |
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What is the common fault with the DC25?
Hi iMacDaddy:
Thanks for asking. Fragile and faulty motor wiring harnesses. Wires and connections appear to me [and others] to be thread thin and break off easily. Certainty not made to vacuum industry standards let alone to withstand the additional shakes, rattles, and rolls of "ball technology" and the ensuing steering and maneuverability that supposedly come with it. Hence, my question about dyson's policy for inspecting/examining faulty parts [fail under normal use quickly after sale] under lab/test conditions and correcting during current/future production. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #435 Apr 22, 2009 1:50 pm |
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Here's the dyson legalese from its Web Site: - Product Recall
- If a serial defect or an otherwise significant problem in Products becomes apparent to either party and it is reasonably suspected that the cause is a defect in Goods, the Supplier shall immediately at Dyson’s request carry out an appropriate investigation into the Goods or participate in and co-operate with Dyson in Dyson’s investigation to determine the cause of the defect, to evaluate any safety aspects and to establish the remedial action required.
- If it is determined by either party that the serial defect affects product safety, the general function, performance or general levels of customer satisfaction with the Products, or if either party wishes to anticipate and prevent a likely government safety-related recall or if a government agency orders or requests Dyson to conduct a safety-related recall, then Dyson will implement a recall or service action campaign and, if necessary, such Products as are or may prove to be defective shall be repaired or replaced as appropriate.
- Dyson may determine that all or a proportion of any recall costs are the responsibility of the Supplier and are payable to Dyson. The costs to be reimbursed will include the warranty costs and administrative expenses incurred by Dyson.
- Confidential Information
- Confidential Information
- The Supplier shall keep confidential (and procure that its respective employees and agents shall keep confidential) any information relating to Dyson which is by nature confidential and which it or they may acquire in relation to the provision of Goods or Services, and shall not use or disclose such information except with the consent of Dyson or in accordance with the order of a court of competent jurisdiction.
- The Supplier shall ensure that all confidential Dyson designs, work in progress and finished Goods are kept in a secure location and in such a way that they are visible only to employees of the Supplier while in the custody or control of the Supplier, unless expressly otherwise agreed by Dyson.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #436 May 3, 2009 5:42 pm |
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TARGET stores are trying to stir up sales action on dyson models with $100 Giftcards on DC14 AF, DC17 AA, DC24 AF, DC25 AFand DC25 Animal. At advertised prices of $399, $549, $399, $499, and $549 respectively before the giftcards with the purchase. BTW, the advertised slogan: "never loses suction" is footnoted with the test number IEC 60312 Cl 2.9. What happened to the freebie DC16 Handheld? Have to wait and see what the future holds at TARGET stores. Perhaps, the DC16 giveaway will be added to the current dyson incentives too to stimulate more dyson sales? Can't hurt. Carmine D. |
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