Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

TARGET is offering a $40 GIFTCARD on the purchase of the DC24 for $399.  Dyson's newest lightweight and latest addition to the big box retailer stores' vacuum venues.  Being billed by TARGET as dyson's latest vacuum technology: The Ball.  Did we all just imagine the DC15 Ball from April 2005?  Maybe if you pretend long and hard enough, and wait long enough, people will believe the DC15 Ball never really existed! 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,

While James was spending millions (undoubtedly) on t.v. advertising, launching and rolling out his DC24, the DC24 sat boxed in its packaging at the 2 Targets and 2 Best Buys in my area, making it difficult to appreciate the contrasting (small) size and impossible to try out, see its features and test drive to see what makes it different.  Ace posted earlier saying he was refused when he asked the Best Buy staff if a DC24 could be removed from its packaging and set out for demonstrating.  I saw these 2 Targets and 2 different Best Buys keep the DC24 locked up in its packaging for 2 weeks after it was rolled out.  Not good for anyone.  Of course now they’re unpacked, on display, and discounted too. 

 

The DC24 follows the success of the DC18.  The DC18 proved there was a paying market for pivoting and turning uprights.  For example; HSN sold 7000 turning and pivoting Dyson’s in 24 hours as a Today Special, not bad.  There’s plenty praising the DC24, from the host of Good Morning America, Barons Online, etc.  When comparing value, the price may be a little high when compared to the full size All Floors, $400 DC07.  Although there are many upper income folks in my area who would think the $400 price tag is a bargain for their high rise apartments or condos as well as those with homes who want a second vacuum.  The folks I know who have money like the cool stuff and they appreciate engineering. - The tired Oreck (for example) simply does not cut it.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

Big box stores don't discount a vacuum within weeks of launch because it's sales are brisk.  Just the opposite.  To jump start sales.  Dyson picked the big box stores [BEST BUY first] as its primary sales venue.  Bad decision?

Vacuuming is work.  It's not entertainment [especially for the rich who deplore menial labor].  When I'm finished vacuuming daily with my ORECK XL, I don't have to bend over to touch my toes to wrap the cord, like I would with the DC24.  For the 30 million plus Americans with back problems [a target market for this lightweight], the bottom cord wrap on the DC24 is a deal breaker.  Not to mention the $400 price tag.  With dyson, less [vacuum] is more [money].

ORECK got it right over 45 years ago.  Dyson with 450 engineers and a task force of 12 swat designers didn't, even with the benefit of a half century of vacuum industry experience.  I have no dirt bin to dump after eash use; no pre-motor filters to wash every month; and post motor filters every 5-6 months.  Just a paper bag to replace monthly and/or less often and a belt every 6-9 months.  Simple, easy care free product.   30 parts all made in the USA.  Thanks ORECK!

Not cutting it by your modern day standards, works just fine for this old fashioned vacuum guy.  And I suspect many others too, who don't buy vacuums from the big box retailers.  But instead go to one of 475 owned and operated ORECK stores.  When plunking down $500, it's not about a one time vacuum purchase.  It's about a business relationship.  Dyson missed that concept too!

Carmine D.

Saw the DYSON DC25 at Bed Bath & Beyond last week, listed at $499 next to the DC17 and DC18.  I have to say, I like that particular model the best out of all three DYSON Ball models.  It's roughly the same size as the Slim, and uses an identical bin and cyclone assembly.  The brushroll appears different from that of the Slim and Absolute, with slightly wider bristles.  I very nearly picked one up, but then I remembered if I purchased one from a good friend and DYSON dealer I would not have to pay full retail for it.

One interesting thing I noticed is that along the lines of Best Buy et al, all three machines appeared to have been used by the amount of dirt in the bins unlike the other machines displayed.  Other than that, they looked brand new.  Small wonder they prefer the DYSONS to deal with that fine commercial dirt over anything else.

-MH

Motorhead wrote:
I wish we had this unit in Canada.  The DC24 is a good seller but it's not for every application due to it's size.  The DC25, assuming it handles the same would easily take the place of the DC18.  Hopefully they'll let us have it in the fall when the new models come out.

Dusty

Hi Dusty,

Interesting the DC25 isn't in Canada, first time I've heard that.  I agree with you that the DC24, while a compact yet powerful machine good for apartments, condos, and such, is limited by its bin capacity in most applications.  I've also heard rumors about its brushroll not being aggressive enough either, but I inspected one at Target and didn't see (or feel) anything wrong there.

The DC25 to me would be much more practical out of the two; larger bin capacity and full-width nozzle yet still small enough to be considered a lightweight.  As I mentioned in my previous post, it's roughly the size of the DC18 Slim, yet the carrying handle is positioned much lower so it is less awkward to lift.  

-MH

dusty wrote:
You can buy as many as you want on E-BAY, at dealer cost also,sometimes less.

Are you tired of being suckered by DYSON yet?????

MOLE

mole wrote:
I have no problem with Dyson.  Product arrives on time and the company provides us with good co-op and support. Can't ask for more than that.
Dusty

dusty wrote:

Dusty:

Yes you can ask for more.  The above is expected/required by dyson based on the contract that you sign with it.

Carmine D.