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M00seUK
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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm |
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Trilobite
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #379 May 23, 2008 5:12 pm |
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Be interesting to see if Dyson put any of these features on it's machines in the future! I personally don't think they will, James Dyson and his Team as DIB has pointed out likes to think out side of the box and be different and not follow everyone else! All the cleaners I've used with foot release pedals which lock the handle have at some point broke! To put a handle release lock would not suit the Ball design or the design like the DC07\DC14\DC17. The DC07\DC14\DC17 would have to have a foot pedal which is what Dyson wanted to get away from and to have easy to use machines. Foot on the front pull back on the handle to use. Easy solution with these models to go over uneven surfaces push handle to upright position tilt back on rear wheels push over surface (uneven) push foot on the corner of the cleaning head to lower back to floor and away you go again! Just a different way of using a vacuum. Not to everyones taste! The hose on a Dyson is separate to the main airflow and only engaged when needed. Less blockages better airflow and shorter path to the collection bin when using the vacuum normally. They wanted to get away from the hose being part of the main airflow from the cleaning head to the collection bin/bag, causing longer air paths and more potential for blockages and poor airflow. I can see the point when you only need the hose, the DC15 and I think the DC14 is the same. You can pull the wand out the top and without releasing the wand\handle from the machine unclip the hose so you have only the hose to use.
Well I don't think James Dyson is thinking 'out of the box', (apart from placing cyclones in series, and the ball wheel). He seems to be trying to not use available technology, but ultimately ends up doing so. If he wants to make the most efficient cleaner, he should use Hoover's later agitator designs, in order to give the carpets a decent beating.
As to a foot pedal, what is that fitted to DC15, 18, 24, & 25?...it's a foot pedal! And staying with foot-operated controls, what about the clutch-belt models DC04, 07, & 14? Those too, are foot operated (or hand, if you can be bothered to bend down). I have used a great many cleaners with hoses as the integral dirt path, and never had any major problem with them. The hoses fitted to the Hoover and Electrolux machines of the 1980's and 90's, tended to be of a thicker pvc By the way, what happened to Dyson's "constant diameter airways" and "MEMA" filters? Anyway, I'm not very pleased with the DC15 leaving old dirt in the carpets.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #380 May 23, 2008 11:17 pm |
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DIB I can not comment on any other that has used a simular auto height adjuster like the Sebo X4. I've demo'd a Sebo X4 and it seem light in use, and no heavy to pickup than any standard upright! From the demo the machine adjusted the head cleaning height to the correct height for that floor type. You can see a demo on the Sebo UK website of this. The way the Sebo work it uses an onboard computer which is constantly monitor and adjusting the cleaning head height using a centre wheel underneath. I believe also in conjuction with the brush bar, it senses when the brush bar is in contact with the carpet and adjusts to the correct height (not too low or too high). The Felix does not have this feature but an indicator tells you if you have the manual height too high or too low! The Sebo X4 and Felix feels like they has 'self propelled' built in as the cleaner moves\glides forward with minimum effort to push it! The one thing I used to find on cleaners I've used with manual height adjustment is that there is always a carpet in the house where none of the settings suit. Too high or too low! Where as self adjusting there is no issue, but thats my personal opinion from my own usage! DC18
DC18,
I saw the x4 video, it was something to watch. And thank you for all the additional info too! DIB
This message was modified May 23, 2008 by DysonInventsBig
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DC18
Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #382 May 24, 2008 7:41 pm |
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Trilobite Yes there is a foot pedal fitted to the DC15\18\24\25, but what does this foot pedal do? Release the stabliser wheels\carriage up out of the way nothing else. You mentioned a foot release\pedal that releases the body so far and locked it like most other vacuums. So you can lift the cleaning head over rugs etc.... The foot pedal on these Dyson models don't do this! Yes it is a foot pedal but not like other vacuums use! I wouldn't call the clutch dial on the DC03\04\07\14 a foot pedal, just a dial, regardless how you operate that dial! The MEMA filter has been replaced with other sorts which Dyson now use. The airways are different on each Dyson model. Thats down to each model design\setup I would of thought! DC18 |
DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #385 May 27, 2008 4:44 pm |
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Carmine,do you HOOVER your rugs,or Vax your rugs,Did i just steal someones logo or did i just invent a new one? how much is a patent right cost................ MOLE
Dyson's tag helps generate up to a billion-two in annual sales. What dollar figure do you place on your tag? DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #387 May 27, 2008 7:41 pm |
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Dyson's tag helps generate up to a billion-two in annual sales. What dollar figure do you place on your tag? DIB
Hello DIB:
Is that the slogan that dyson use to use: Never clogs, never loses suction? Carmine D.
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