Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

Be interesting to see if Dyson put any of these features on it's machines in the future!  I personally don't think they will, James Dyson and his Team as DIB has pointed out likes to think out side of the box and be different and not follow everyone else!  All the cleaners I've used with foot release pedals which lock the handle have at some point broke!

To put a handle release lock would not suit the Ball design or the design like the DC07\DC14\DC17.  The DC07\DC14\DC17 would have to have a foot pedal which is what Dyson wanted to get away from and to have easy to use machines.  Foot on the front pull back on the handle to use.  Easy solution with these models to go over uneven surfaces push handle to upright position tilt back on rear wheels push over surface (uneven) push foot on the corner of the cleaning head to lower back to floor and away you go again! Just a different way of using a vacuum.  Not to everyones taste!

The hose on a Dyson is separate to the main airflow and only engaged when needed.  Less blockages better airflow and shorter path to the collection bin when using the vacuum normally.   They wanted to get away from the hose being part of the main airflow from the cleaning head to the collection bin/bag, causing longer air paths and more potential for blockages and poor airflow.  I can see the point when you only need the hose, the DC15 and I think the DC14 is the same.  You can pull the wand out the top and without releasing the wand\handle from the machine unclip the hose so you have only the hose to use.

The nicest printable compliment I heard about the sales appeal of dyson vacuums is that they are toys with a purpose.  Ironically something very similar to M00seUK's commentary on iRobot Roombas.

Carmine D.

I think these are valid points on the Dyson cleaning head. I personally prefer a machine without a manual height adjuster... even if it perhaps decreases the performance ever so slightly.

Going between rooms or on to hearth rugs can be a real problem for the Dyson. It is normally possible to put your foot on the underside of the head and raise it - but this is far from ideal - A foot lever would be many times better.

DC18 wrote:

Well I don't think James Dyson is thinking 'out of the box', (apart from placing cyclones in series, and the ball wheel). He seems to be trying to not use available technology, but ultimately ends up doing so. If he wants to make the most efficient cleaner, he should use Hoover's later agitator designs, in order to give the carpets a decent beating.

As to a foot pedal, what is that fitted to DC15, 18, 24, & 25?...it's a foot pedal!

And staying with foot-operated controls, what about the clutch-belt models DC04, 07, & 14? Those too, are foot operated (or hand, if you can be bothered to bend down).

I have used a great many cleaners with hoses as the integral dirt path, and never had any major problem with them. The hoses fitted to the Hoover and Electrolux machines of the 1980's and 90's, tended to be of a thicker pvc

By the way, what happened to Dyson's "constant diameter airways" and "MEMA" filters?

Anyway, I'm not very pleased with the DC15 leaving old dirt in the carpets.

DC18 wrote:

DC18,

I saw the x4 video, it was something to watch.  And thank you for all the additional info too!        DIB

DIB

Your welcome, glad you could watch that video.

DC18

Trilobite

Yes there is a foot pedal fitted to the DC15\18\24\25, but what does this foot pedal do?  Release the stabliser wheels\carriage up out of the way nothing else.  You mentioned a foot release\pedal that releases the body so far and locked it like most other vacuums. So you can lift the cleaning head over rugs etc.... The foot pedal on these Dyson models don't do this!  Yes it is a foot pedal but not like other vacuums use!

I wouldn't call the clutch dial on the DC03\04\07\14 a foot pedal, just a dial, regardless how you operate that dial!

The MEMA filter has been replaced with other sorts which Dyson now use.  The airways are different on each Dyson model.  Thats down to each model design\setup I would of thought!

DC18

My point is that Dyson, having previously been somewhat wary of pedals, controls, switches, etc., is now fitting those very things to his machines.

Carmine,do you HOOVER your rugs,or Vax your rugs,Did i just steal someones logo or did i just invent a new one?

how much is a patent right cost................

MOLE

mole wrote:

Dyson's tag helps generate up to a billion-two in annual sales.  What dollar figure do you place on your tag?        DIB