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M00seUK


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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #349   May 6, 2008 4:38 pm
iMacDaddy wrote:
  There are several things that should be noted about the DC25.  First, the brushroll is simply heads and shoulders above anything else dyson has used in any upright.  Its bristles are aggressive enough to deep clean without tearing your carpet up.  When vacuuming carpet, you can definitely feel the aggressive nature of the brushroll with a slight vibration that resonates all the way up the handle.  This is something that I have not felt on other models such as the DC07, DC14, DC15, DC17, and DC18.  The brushroll, coupled with the redesigned motorhead, creates a tight seal between the carpet and the soleplate.  To further test this finding, I took out a bathroom rug and used my DC17 and DC25 on it.  The 17 was able make a few passes while tearing many fibers out of the rug.  However, the 25 could not roll on the rug without bunching it up because the tight seal between the rug and sole plate would not permit it to roll smoothly on the rug.  In addition, some may think that the DC18 and DC25 will perform the same because of their similarly sized brush rolls; they don't.  The DC18 doesn't have that tight suction feel in the motorhead as the DC25, nor do you feel a slight vibration in the handle generated from the brushroll as you would with the 25. 


When I read this section of your post, it made me want to experiment with my DC15, as in my opinion, the DC15 doesn't seem to perform any better on carpet than any other cleaner. Indeed, Which? Magazine was a little disappointed with its test results.

I decided to try  to improve the suction at the soleplate by a simple modification: blocking that ridiculous "large particle" opening.

I took a sheet of robust kitchen paper, and simply folded it tightly into the approximate size of the opening, then inserted it into the opening on the underside of the bumper.

Switching on, the cleaner now hugs the carpet much better. The pile seems to stand more upright and I am convinced that the machine is removing more dirt from the carpets, as there appears to be evidence in the bin, of ancient 'Zorb' Carpet Powder that has not been used in two years! Also, there appears to be evidence of more grit in the bin than is usual. The downside is that the machine now hugs vinyl floorcoverings and lightweight rugs somewhat more intimately, making for resistant manoeuvring.

Has any one else tried this?

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #350   May 6, 2008 5:26 pm
Trilobite wrote:
When I read this section of your post, it made me want to experiment with my DC15, as in my opinion, the DC15 doesn't seem to perform any better on carpet than any other cleaner. Indeed, Which? Magazine was a little disappointed with its test results.

I decided to try  to improve the suction at the soleplate by a simple modification: blocking that ridiculous "large particle" opening.

I took a sheet of robust kitchen paper, and simply folded it tightly into the approximate size of the opening, then inserted it into the opening on the underside of the bumper.

Switching on, the cleaner now hugs the carpet much better. The pile seems to stand more upright and I am convinced that the machine is removing more dirt from the carpets, as there appears to be evidence in the bin, of ancient 'Zorb' Carpet Powder that has not been used in two years! Also, there appears to be evidence of more grit in the bin than is usual. The downside is that the machine now hugs vinyl floorcoverings and lightweight rugs somewhat more intimately, making for resistant manoeuvring.

Has any one else tried this?


Trilobite,

Yes, I have.  In theory, by plugging up this hole you just made your vacuum suck better than the DC17.  And it’s highly maneuverable unlike the 17, and softer tuffs too.  A fix for your lighter rugs, etc. getting sucked to much…  A quick and dirty way would be to use duct tape to cover the debris channel opening > then open it (peal tape back) up somewhat when doing lighter carpets.  Or cover this opening with duct tape and peal it back just enough (creating an air leak) so to set suction just right on the light carpets and leave it this way for the other carpets too.  Keep an eye on the pre-filter, it may dirty faster.        DIB

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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #351   May 6, 2008 6:32 pm
Thanks DIB.

I also noticed that with the modification, the edge cleaning seems to be a bit better, as suction is forced to enter at the sides of the soleplate. (I really miss the older UK Hoovers, with their flared bristles brushed edge cleaning).

Now, I wonder if it is possible to add beater bars to the brushroll?

Acerone


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Points: 986

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #352   May 6, 2008 7:46 pm
Saw the new Dyson Ball commercial today during Oprah...
DC18


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #353   May 10, 2008 9:03 am
Hi Trilobite

I will give it a go with my DC15 and let you know!  Explains why the DC18 Slim head without the large debris pickup hole hugs the floor better than the DC15!

DC18

Trilobite


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #354   May 11, 2008 7:44 pm
DC18 wrote:
Hi Trilobite

I will give it a go with my DC15 and let you know!  Explains why the DC18 Slim head without the large debris pickup hole hugs the floor better than the DC15!

DC18


I wondered whether the DC18 had that opening on it; now I know, ta. Dyson's engineers have a funny way of going about things, by introducing features on a particular model, for them to disappear on the next, and reappear further down the line.

They really need to address the 'up to the edge' cleaning ability of the DC15, both side on and straight on. It may be fine on vinyl flooring, but on carpet it is a pain in the neck. The brushes never get as close as the Hoovers did.

Acerone


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 986

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #355   May 12, 2008 6:16 pm
Looks like we missed it boy's and girl's.

HSN Dyson DC25
DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

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Points: 294

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #356   May 12, 2008 6:17 pm
Trilobite

I know what you mean, I bet if someone did the same with a DC14 it would feel different!  More powerful.  I have tried it on my DC15 and what a difference plugging up that hole mades, so much so that i can hardly push it a easily as before.  The carpet pile lifts so much better and I could see the carpet being lift where the nozzle was!

Yes I have to agree what you say about Hoover edge cleaning.  The Hoover Turbopower (1980's) for one had great side\edge suction cleaning performance, with it's flared edge brushes on the brush roll.  Even Hoover (UK) have stopped doing this now!   The side 'whiskers' on the DC07 where quite good why they dropped it after the DC14 who knows?  Sebo Felix has very good edge cleaning too.

DC18

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #357   May 13, 2008 7:49 am
DC18 wrote:
Trilobite

I know what you mean, I bet if someone did the same with a DC14 it would feel different!  More powerful.  I have tried it on my DC15 and what a difference plugging up that hole mades, so much so that i can hardly push it a easily as before.  The carpet pile lifts so much better and I could see the carpet being lift where the nozzle was!

Yes I have to agree what you say about Hoover edge cleaning.  The Hoover Turbopower (1980's) for one had great side\edge suction cleaning performance, with it's flared edge brushes on the brush roll.  Even Hoover (UK) have stopped doing this now!   The side 'whiskers' on the DC07 where quite good why they dropped it after the DC14 who knows?  Sebo Felix has very good edge cleaning too.

DC18



You probably don't have the Orecks in the UK.  For those who do, look at the Oreck edge cleaners.  Compare to the dyson DC07.  Makes the DC07 edge cleaners look useless.  Oreck's edge cleaners work both on bare floors and rugs.  The best I've found so far in design function and performance.   

Carmine D.

This message was modified May 13, 2008 by CarmineD
M00seUK


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #358   May 13, 2008 8:20 am
CarmineD wrote:
You probably don't have the Orecks in the UK.  For those who do, look at the Oreck edge cleaners.  Compare to the dyson DC07.  Makes the DC07 edge cleaners look useless.  Oreck's edge cleaners work both on bare floors and rugs.  The best I've found so far in design function and performance.   

Carmine D.


Orecks are sold in the UK, mainly in catalogues targeted at 'seniors', looking for new ways to spend their children's inheritance.
Possibly in independent dealers too, but like in the US, they're a dying breed these days.
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