Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

Great review of the DC25 iMacDaddy, I have to say I was impressed with the brush bar on the DC25 much better than the DC15/18.

I had a look on the UK Dyson website and both the DC24 and DC25 have a removable nozzle head like the DC18 Slim, with the DC24 having a retaining clip once you push the head on!

Bucks03 I agree with you with regards to Dyson making a slim machine, the ball is a very good concept/design but makes the machines bulky.  The DC03 (UK) was a very good machine, slim could lie flat to go right under furniture and was light to use.  Dyson should do a updated version of this machine.  The only draw backs for me where the power (700 watt motor) with about 90 airwatts and the brush bar.  Put the DC25 brush bar on it and increase the power airwatts (maybe use the DDM as it's light and small) with the new wand design and slightly larger rear wheels and you have a successor to the DC03!

DC18

Hi DIB

I like the DC18 Slim to as my Mum uses one.  The slim as the same motor wattage and airwatts in the UK as the DC15.  The power nozzle on the slim is ok prefer the one on the DC15 with its metal soleplate. I like the idea you can remove the power nozzle on the slim like you can on the DC24/25.   The DC25 may replace the slim as UK shops near me have dropped the DC18 since the DC24 and DC25 have been launched!  The DC25 did feel lighter to the DC18 Slim to me.  Thats because the motor is higher up on the slim to the DC25 using full ball technology (motor in ball V's small empty ball - slim).  The carrying handle is only higher on the DC18 due to the motor position if this was lower so would be the carry handle on the top of the bin!  A re-designed slim taking into account the DC03 model could be a consideration as an alternative to the ball technology.  The small ball on the slim does not work as well as the bigger ball models (DC15/24/25)

We in the UK have only had the slim with the handle facing behind, all other UK Dyson have been front facing which I prefer!  I can see you point!

DC18

mole wrote:

Mole,  if only you could be as honest about Dyson as you are about yourself.

You probably are correct about vacuumm buyers before Dyson because the bought the over priced excrement sold by indies who conned then into believing their investment would be protected.  Truth is the indies were getting rich on supplies, parts and labor.

Now Dyson has taken that away and the indies are sooo envious.

mole wrote:

Speak for yourself.  My wife’s most enjoyable accoutrements do me just fine.        DIB

HARDSELL wrote:
Hi H,S, What do you mean by honest,for the sake of building his own ego they have bilked and raped and destroyed the high end vacuum cleaner market.The general concesus with strong indys not just the hit and run make a quick buck type is all the same about dyson,to put it in simple terms they have been burnt to many times by companies like dyson,

Im just glad ill be around to see what these guys do to their dealer network, IT'S not going to be a pretty picture,Sort of like Carmine with the salteze bros,

Next question is when the innovator going to come out with a machine that has self adjusting speed control,like some machines have in the same price range............

mole

mole wrote:

Hello Mole:

I've heard and read about this feature, but I can't recall the makes and models having it.  Can you tell us? Curious to know if they are sold by big box retailers/independents.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

The DC18 does not have a ball wheel IMHO.  It's something else unnamed.  I think Mr. Dyson was experimenting with spin-offs of the ball wheel on the DC18.  Then, he decided to go back to the original DC15 design ball on the DC24/25.   

Ironically, GE crossed the same bridge in the early 60's.  It called its wheel a ball but it was more on the order of the DC18 design and operation [more correctly the dyson DC18 is on the order of the GE].  A center placed oblong wheel and not a round ball.

If I can sum up the consensus correctly it would appear that the dyson DC18 is not the preferred wheel/maneuverability configuration for upright dyson vacuums.  Instead the original dyson ball [DC15, 24, 25] is better and more preferred. 

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

Mole:

Congrats, you hit on the 2 in over 40 years that fit DIB's description.  Not ironic that they are brothers. 

Carmine D.

HI Carmine, miele has had this set up in their canisters the mid range S class for a long time,I do not know of any uprights that do this as of now, WORD ON THE STEET HAS IT THAT IF IT COMES TO MARKET IN UPRIGHTS LOOK FOR EITHER MIELE,LINDHAUS,SEBO,AND EVEN THE UNINNOVATIVE AMERICAN COMPANY KIRBY.

I would like to add that panasonic in the late 80s early 90s had the electronic speed control on their uprights,How about the hoover electronic 1000 canister from the 70s now sought after by collectors.

  MOLE

Thanks Mole.  Keep me posted.  I like that feature on an upright vacuum cleaner.  Ideal for throw/area rugs! 

The HOOVER Z has a spinoff of this type of feature but it is manual/user controlled.  Called DigiTouch Control Pad.  Adjusts automatically to rug height and gentleness after the user touches the desired settings. 

Carmine D.