Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

mole wrote:

MOLE  That's a very good point you've made.  Something I would have never of thought of. I am a user of the older Dyson DC04 so have not got this problem with it.  To be honest I do not like the ball,  I think it makes the machines bulky,  I know they may be good for twisting the cleaner about but I never find I have to twist my machine but (only in a small space) because my DC04 has such strong suctoion and no release on the soleplate so the machine sticks to the Lino in the bathroom and kitchen.

bucks03 wrote:

I wonder how many vacuum buyers and users feel this way? 

Dyson backed into the airblade by accident.  The ball technology

was made for wheel barrows not vacuums.  Are vacuums wheel barrows?

Vacuum buyers will be the judge.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine, I simply cut out the Dyson lineup from his UK web page and drew a line over the handles.  The image you asked for, I just copied from the US site and drew some lines.  It is the easiest for me.

As much as I dislike Consumer Reports on vacuums, at times it is science and at times it is a circus.  Yes, it has to hurt Dyson sales to some degree.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Thank you DIB. 

I would agree CR ratings affect vacuum sales.  But for Mr. Dyson, CR ratings are much more.  CR ratings affect his reputation as engineer and inventor.

WRT to ball technology on vacuums:  Maybe on full size, heavy duty vacuums like a DC17.  But lightweight household vacuums? Do you need ball technology?  The Dirt Devil Kruz [pronounced cruise] does marvelously with 3 simple ordinary wheels.  It's on my buy list  based solely on the favorable HSN demo which so impressed the HSN sales staffers.  More than any vacuum product I've ever seen advertised on home sales TV.

Carmine D.

Just so you people know this,the dirt devil swivelglide vacuum outmanuevers a dc15,and it's only 39.95.........

MOLE

mole wrote:

You forgot to add – ..[wrong], lazy and fairly stupid too.        DIB

updated on: 4/11/08

Mole attacked Mr. Dyson (one of many, many shameless attacks) and his benevolent $50 million dollar gift and school for kids to learn to innovate and engineer.  This should ultimately produce thousands of jobs and steams of tax income into/for the UK and perhaps other countries.  I defended the good.

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I’m setting the record straight….

“Suits” in general of American vacuum cleaner manufacturing are “lazy and fairly stupid.” I have seen it first hand and am in the position to comment.  When it comes to respecting, understanding, appreciating and courting innovation and inventors American vacuum manufacturers do not lead.  I have much respect for the hard working and moral, no matter their vocation.     DIB

 

I'll say it again...  I respect the opinions and vocations of the hard working and moral.

CarmineD wrote:

CarmineD  Exactly.  a vacuum cleaner is not a ballbarrow.  I do not really see much advantage of having the Ball in the middle, I have used it and not liked it.  The Ball is simply just to keep people interested I think.  If Dyson really want to create as 'Slim' vacuum cleaner then they should remove the ball and create a vacuum cleaner that is slim without the bulge of the ball in gthe middle.  A machine like the older DC03 was good and that didn't have the ball, it was able to lie completely flat to the ground which allowed the user to vacuum under Coffee Tables and Beds unlike the Ball models which are not able due to the diameter of the ball.

I was in Target today looking for a chaise lounger in preparation for the 90 degree weather in LV this weekend.  Eat your hearts out!

Stopped by the vacuum aisle.  Saw the DC24.  Tiny dirt bin.  Huge ball wheel looks awkward on the petite dyson DC24.  Monthly pre-filter washings. Low cord wraps.  If you like bending over to touch your feet with your hands, you'll like the DC24 cord wrap. Terrible bin lid cover release mechanism.  Chintzy.  Didn't work after numerous tries by my Wife and I.  Had to open/close the bin lid manually.  I don't like the brushbar.  It's not aggressive enough for surface cleaning and grooming on carpets IMHO.  Better suited for floors.  $399 plus a $50 Target Gift Card.

Didn't try the vacuum operation.  Leave that test for BEST BUY.  Unless the vacuum operation on carpets proves worthy of the $399 price tag, it's not on my short list as a lightweight daily user in my home.   My impression is that it competes with all the mini and lite stick vacuum uprights [$50 retail] on the market.  But with a very pricey sticker. If anyone uses the dyson 24 ball, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on my comments.

BTW, this Target store has the DC07 Animal, DC14 Target Exclusive [being sold on clearance], DC18 Slim, DC17, and now the DC24.  No other dysons.  All the dysons come with a $50 Gift Card with purchase.  

I looked for the Kruz  [thanks for the nice pic DIB]  but it was not in stock yet.  That one is on my buy list unless it totally doesn't do what I saw it do on HSN TV.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine, why do you put so much faith in a magazine that relies on hand-outs?  Their non-profit tax status (does not pay taxes) isn’t even enough to keep them solvent.  They must pan handle to survive.  Does CR open their books annually as to who gives what and are these donors connected to manufacturing in any way?

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Dyson indeed looses somewhat at the floor with the beater brush/nozzle wars.  Year in and year out it will continue to loose unless Dyson the designer can get out of the way and allow Dyson the inventor and engineer to build a better vacuum at the floor.  CR owes it’s readers an explanation as to why they do not put a number or percentage amount on its “suck dirt from carpet” findings.  CR is playing the public for stupid.  What’s better and more definitive, a number amount or their current red dot system of ¼, ½, ¾ or full – the bigger your dot the better we like you [system].  Does the top vacuum out suck a Dyson buy 10 grains of sand or 100 grains of sand or 1000 grains of sand? - And if so for how long or how long until the bag chokes?  And/or what happens to a Dyson vacuum versus a bag or filtered vacuum after sucking up ¾ cups or so of fine dust, will Dyson's filtration then prove itself and then become higher ranked or even a winner?        DIB

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P.S.  I have not seen this years CR vacuum reviews.  I base my text from last years memory of CR vacuum reviewing.