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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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DC18


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #261   Apr 6, 2008 4:12 pm
DIB

Good picture to see the constrast between the DC24 box and the DC17 cyclone bin!  So you have seen the DC24 and DC25 what did you think?  The DC24 is small, I was surprised when I first saw it in person.  I wonder if the DC24 comes fully setup in the box, if it did it would be unusual for Dyson.

DC18

DC18


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #262   Apr 6, 2008 4:17 pm
Carmine D

I can see where your coming from with the warranty and filter maintanance on the DC22 (Japan).  But if I'm correct the filter now is not covered as such by the 5 year warranty.

I think the reason for the DC24 and DC25 not to have the root and core technology was due to size and weight.  I thought both these models would have this technology on it plus the DDM too.  The root and core technology does add weight and size onto these lighter and slimmer machines.  Maybe they are working on a scalled down version of the root and core technology!?

DC18

DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #263   Apr 7, 2008 8:22 pm
DC18 wrote:
The 3 months filter washing interval is going back tot he days of the DC01 and DC02 which you had to repalce the filters every 3 months or sooner!  Now the filters are washable on later models!  Suppose the 3 months makes sense! 

DC18

mole wrote:
So now were back to this filter nonsense,why use any filters at all you cant have it both ways. There is no such thing as loss of suction i dont care how much technobabble you throw at this,GEE A DISPOSALE PRE MOTOR FILTER THAT SOUNS REAL INNOVATIVE THEY ONLY BEEN AROUND SINCE THE EARLY 1940s.Why doesnt dyson admit that their plastic junk is just as bad as the rest of them except his junk just costs more and lots more,IM KIND OF WONDERING TO MYSELF HOW THEY LASTED THIS LONG,

MAYBE ITS THE FANCY ADVERTISING,
And the bag was hopelessly clogged,MY A$$......................

MOLE

Calm down repair man, stick within your skill set.  Dyson and others like him, take on huge risks, invent needed and profitable product just so guys like you can have a job.        DIB

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Acerone


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #264   Apr 7, 2008 9:52 pm
Just saw the new Dyson Ball commercial while watching Deal or No Deal..

And I see it's already on YouTube

And one more Video
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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #265   Apr 7, 2008 11:39 pm
Acerone wrote:
Just saw the new Dyson Ball commercial while watching Deal or No Deal..

And I see it's already on YouTube

And one more Video

Thanks.  I just finished uploading the same commercial to my host site.  The UK user video was very good to see too.  As shown, the DC24 can be whipped around effortlessly.        DIB




DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #266   Apr 8, 2008 12:41 am
DC18 wrote:
DIB

Good picture to see the constrast between the DC24 box and the DC17 cyclone bin!  So you have seen the DC24 and DC25 what did you think?  The DC24 is small, I was surprised when I first saw it in person.  I wonder if the DC24 comes fully setup in the box, if it did it would be unusual for Dyson.

DC18



DC18,

DC24 thoughts:  I had trouble getting the foot peddle to release the vacuum into a recline position (a little sticky).  The brush bar rod diameter was small, not unlike a cordless Eureka stick vac w/ motorized brush.  The power head and wand were the only 2 pieces that needed to be attached after unpacking from its shipping box.  I did not run the vacuum.  Cord was thicker and heavier than my older DC15.  The cyclone and bin size looked very much like one half of the DC11's cyclone and bin.  Cyclones looked more straightened and more vertical and pulled apart/separated (from a clustering) to allow for a nicer transition and fit to the pre-filter.  The hatch on the ball was easy to remove and getting to post filter was not difficult or awkward.  Removing and replacing the post filter was very easy.  Putting the hatch back was a little tricky.  If Japan is ever going to move to or buy more uprights, then this is it!  It has a wow factor for sure and no competitors in terms of size and maneuverability.  The technology and looks are very cool, no matter what the anti-Dyson zealots say.  It is concentrated technology.

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DC24 thoughts:  I did not spend much time looking or playing with this vacuum.  It indeed uses the Slim’s cyclone and bin.  I was very disappointed to feel the handle weight compared to the Slim.  I expected a super lightweight handle weight.  These handle weights (18/25) seem exactly or near exactly the same.  I did not look more than this.

.

There is no way IMO that these ball concepts can be reversed engineered or knocked off.  Dyson owns this new TM look and capabilities.  In terms of "wow factor", manuverability and suction up to 220 airwatts, Dyson has no competitors.        DIB

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bucks03


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #267   Apr 8, 2008 7:44 am
I'm not sure why Dyson has introduced washable Pre and Post motor filters.  I like the fact that on the previous models it was onlt the Pre Motor that required washing.  I suppose the reason Dyson has put on these new models is not because of the size but because Dyson had maybe identified that the lifetime Post Motor filter was not good in the long term.  My DC04 has lifetime Post Motor filter which has started leaking Carbon Dust becuase it has never been changed in 5 years, it has goty extreamly black and both the sides have discoloured.

I like the fact though I have never had to tough the Post Motor filer (Only once when I took the machine apart to change the whole body duct due to it cracking)   I know it is easy to just rinse the filter out but I find I'm not good with keeping with the filter cleaning intervals and the Pre Motor filter on My DC04 doesn't get overly coated with dust so I can go for around 11 months before washing my filter again and have done so.

My machine only has problems with filtering long human hairs sometimes which I find bypasses the Dual Cyclone and straight onto the Pre Motor filter but I have encountered this on Root Cyclone machines, the Root Cyclone does not filter better, just allows more airflow though, the only Dyson cyclones that filter better is the Mach on the DC17 and the Core technology on the DC22 as it has to pass through 2 'inner stages'.  However,  I wonder even if this is any better,  I mean why does the DC22 have to have its filters washed every 3 months???  If the Core technology can filter better then it should last longer than the previous models which were every 6 months surely!

I like the look of the DC24,  I also tried the DC25, which I think is a good machine also but I do not like the newer style Dyson tools, I think they look cheap, also the bin capacity is way too small on the DC25,  I know its a 'Slimline' vacuum but I'm sure Dyson could have made better use with the space on top of the bin.  The shroud is overly big and also the bin is not very tall.  I don't know about others but I don't like having to keep emptying my vacuum cleaner.

The DC24 is a nice machine though which should prove popular in smaller homes and flats with people who want a stylish vacuum cleaner.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #268   Apr 8, 2008 8:02 am
I saw the dyson TV ad on ACCESS Hollywood.  I like the vintage black and white films

of the old metal EUREKA and HOOVER Uprights of many years ago.  Classic vacuums

for all the ages.  Thanks for posting.  Viewed the usage of the dyson DC24 on You tube.

The dirt bin on the DC24 fills up very quickly.  Just a few minutes of quick pick up and use.

It was ready for dumping.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Apr 8, 2008 by CarmineD
mole


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #269   Apr 8, 2008 9:58 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Calm down repair man, stick within your skill set.  Dyson and others like him, take on huge risks, invent needed and profitable product just so guys like you can have a job.        DIB



Hi D.I.B., It seems to me that your blind faith to Sir Jimmy is sending you down the wrong way of a one way street.I and a few others have done very well in this business and have done it honestly and kept my integrity along with it.

I ve been at this business for 36 years  and have seen the evolutions in this industry.[Have You].?

Now im going to give you some valuable information on how people concieve vacuuming and cleaning their homes.90% of the public dont even want to do it this is why people hire housecleaners and landscapers.And most of the newer generation dont even know how to release a bin latch never mind about using attachments.

Do you really think that people care what color their vacuum cleaner is unless their into color matching their home interior colors.A vacuum cleaner picks up FILTH that humans and animals leave behind,it sounds real inticeing to use it doesnt it.

B.T.W it seems like dyson is following hoovers lead in product development,way to much of the same thing,just a few cosmetic changes here and there,nothing earth shattering.

MOLE

DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #270   Apr 8, 2008 10:49 am

Mole,

 

Like I told Carmine, I like a good challenge.  And so at times, I will take you to task.  This is certainly more fun than the hand holding and like mindedness at the other site isn’t it?  You’re a feisty son-of-a-gun, and so if you want to “go at it” intelligently, then let me know.        DIB


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