Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

DC18:

I believe that 7 years is the warranty on the DDM, not the filter life.

Carmine D.

I think I may of posted the below already.  Here it is (again)...

My neighbor was kind enough to translate (best as possible) the wording on this DC22 packaging.        DIB

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Japanese Blog picture of the DC22 Moorhead’s packaging - stated:

1)      30 times better than any cyclone vacuum.

2)      Motorhead does not slow down vs. turbine nozzle.

3)      Updated Root with Core separator.

4)      “About” 7 years you do not have to touch [pre-filte] for 7 years.

5)      2 yr. warrantee.

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Japanese DC22 Motorhead launch event w/James Dyson standing in front of signage:

1)      No maintenance on the filter.

2)      Suction stays strong.

3)      14 root cyclones

4)      More cyclones than the DC12 model.

5)      Dyson DDM.

6)      Dyson digital motor – re-invented motor.

7)      Buttons on handgrip, do not have to lean over.

8)      Suction mode can be changed for curtains.

9)      Exhaust air directed upward.

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Japanese DC22 Motorhead rapid prototype:

1)      100 people worked on it.

2)      100 different models of vacuums.  The best elements from these models were used on production model.

Thanks for the reminder about the DC22 in Japan thought it was 7 years on the filter.  Wasn't 100% sure but thought I read you comment on here correct.

DC18

I don't expect definitive answers but these questions come to mind.  All comments are welcome. 

I wonder how does one arrive at a measure, standard, criteria for establishing a 7 year maintenance free pre-motor filter?  

I can't reconcile a 7 year maintenance free filter life with a 2 year vacuum cleaner warranty.  I can understand a 2 year [or less] maintenance free filter life with a 7 year vacuum warranty.  Why?  Say the filter fails [clogs] after 2 years and before 7 years.  Is it replaced under a separate pre-motor filter warranty?  If not, of what value is the 7 year maintenance free filter life? It's a moot point.   It's not reasonable [at least to me] to make a maintenance free claim on the filter that exceeds the vacuum's warranty [unless the filter comes with a warranty for that specific period of time].  Does it make sense to others?

The cyclones in the DC22 are 30 times better than existing ones and result in 7 years of maintenance free filter life.  Then my logical deduction tells me dyson can produce bagless vacuums with cyclones that are 5-10 times better [than those dysons to date] with a year/more maintenance free pre-motor filters.  If so, why didn't dyson make them available on the DC24/25? 

Carmine D.

A quick note.  I saw the DC24 and DC25.  I was amazed how small the 24 was, it looked like a toy.  I do not own a DC24 but have a box.  Below is a pic to show some contrasting sizes.        DIB

Aceone,

Since the floor sales guy was a Dyson owner and fan, and knew James' story somewhat he and his manager were delighted to pull a 24 out of the box for display.  I asked the appliance manager how Dyson's sell at their stores?  A:  It's our best best seller.  I asked which models sell best?  A:  All of them.         DIB

Good picture to see the constrast between the DC24 box and the DC17 cyclone bin!  So you have seen the DC24 and DC25 what did you think?  The DC24 is small, I was surprised when I first saw it in person.  I wonder if the DC24 comes fully setup in the box, if it did it would be unusual for Dyson.

DC18

I can see where your coming from with the warranty and filter maintanance on the DC22 (Japan).  But if I'm correct the filter now is not covered as such by the 5 year warranty.

I think the reason for the DC24 and DC25 not to have the root and core technology was due to size and weight.  I thought both these models would have this technology on it plus the DDM too.  The root and core technology does add weight and size onto these lighter and slimmer machines.  Maybe they are working on a scalled down version of the root and core technology!?

DC18