Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

Motorhead wrote:

I did not post/boast of any manufactuers' vacuum sales.  Why should

I have to defend them?  Why should I compare dyson sales to any brand's numbers?

I responded to DIB post [not you] who did boast and post about dyson's annual sales. 

I asked DIB why he thinks $1.2 B in annual sales is worthy of boasting about.

I'm not sure the $1.2 B is accurate, valid and/or correct. 

I don't know what year[s] it is for.  If it is even for more than one year.  Or dyson's best?

What/who is the source of the number?  DIB as far as I know.

I used DIB's number as a talking point to make a point.  You chimed in.  Are you DIB? 

You may think 2-3 Million worldwide units is "nothing to sneeze at."   But what did it cost

dyson to produce and sell the 2-3 million new dysons?  Do you know?  Does DIB know?

Do you think that is an important piece of information to know if one is quoting the annual dollar

sales? 

Let's say for talking purposes that it cost dyson $2 Billion dollars to make and sell

the $1.2 B in dysons?  Would you still say 2-3 M dysons is nothing to sneeze at? 

WRT wheel barrows:  My statement is clear.  My sense is that their annual sales

are more lucrative than vacuums.  Do you want to disagree?  

Carmine D.

Motorhead wrote:

Electrolux also made and sold the Model 12 [1930-1937]; the model 60 [1952-1955];

and the Model E [1954-1956].  Since the yearly number of all dyson models sold is

the number used, then should you also include these sales numbers too?

Carmine D.

You haven't answered my question.  What are the yearly sales figures for Hoover, Eureka, and Oreck?  Surely you must know *those* since you know so much about Dyson sales.  Concerning Dyson sales in America alone, that is more along the lines of 4 million.  Worldwide is approximately 25 million annually, hard to believe but VERY MUCH true.  In the UK, 70% of households use Dysons, while Miele occupies 10% of the remainder.  The other brands must try to occupy the remaining 20%, and that's just the UK market alone.  No matter where in the world you go, there you are, and so is the Dyson.

In another 10 years, Dysons will be everywhere here just like they are across the pond right now...over 30% of all households in America will have them.  Unlike some (Hoover Tempo/WT for example), no one will throw a Dyson in the trash can.  Instead, if something does go wrong, they will take it in for service, provided the customer isn't a complete and total moron of course

-MH

Motorhead wrote:

My dear fellow, I didn't post and boast of the dyson sales.  I have no idea what they are.  DIB and now you are posting and boasting.  I think its odd that you are both quoting different numbers and amounts so authoritatively.  

Using your numbers [4 m sales in the USA per year] the annual dyson sales revenue just in the USA alone is $1.6 B [using an average of $400 per new dyson].  Using your number of $10 M for dyson vacuum sales worldwide, then annual dyson sales is $25 B [using $400 per dyson]. 

DIB said dyson sales income is $1.2 B [worldwide].  Your numbers and DIB are not even in the same ballpark.  Off by a magnitude of 10!

Do you have a source and reference for your numbers that you can share?  Maybe DIB will do the same. One/or both of you are misquoting and/or are in error.

Carmine D.

Read my question again that I presented to you TWICE, tell me what Hoover's sales figures are and I will gladly tell you more.  Cooperation goes both ways.

-MH

Motorhead wrote:

My dear fellow:

I already told you several times: I have no idea what a particular vacuum brands' sales are annually.  I did not post and boast of any brand's sales numbers and revenue.  Let alone dyson.  You and DIB did.  You both are quoting very different numbers and amounts.  Where does your information come from?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Motorhead:

I interpret your lack of response to my simple and straight forward question as either you not knowing, and/or you are unwilling to provide.  Or possibly the numbers are pulled out of the air.  [What was that you recently said: If you can't dazzle with brilliance daze with BS].

Since DIB is on vacation, he hasn't had the time and/or a means to post the source of $1.2 B dyson sales annually.  Perhaps he will and that will prompt you to do the same.  Maybe not.  Until then I can't figure out the reasons for the huge discrepancies between your and his numbers. Perhaps Airblade (Matt mmc) can help you out with the inside dyson info.  What do you say Airblade?  What light can you shed on this topic? Who's right?  Motorhead/DIB?  Or are they both wrong?

Carmine D.

Well Dyson definitely didn't sell 4M vacuums in the U.S. last year.  Roughly half of that is more accurate...........which was about a 50% increase over 2006.  Wish I could tell you worldwide sales, but haven't seen them yet

Airblade wrote:

Hello Matt:

Thanks for responding and clarifying.  The 2M dysons represent about 10 percent of the US vacuum sales market per year, which is more impressive than the numbers DIB quoted.  I suspect DIB was quoting 2006 sales which were the latest available until you posted 2007.  MH is probably posting future aggregate sales with a 10 percent inflation factor added for each year.  [You know his philosophy: Baffle with BS].

BTW, can you clarify if these dyson sales numbers are the actual POS [point of sale] to the customer?  Or sales as counted from dyson's inventory to the retailers?

Carmine D.

these would be sales from Dyson to retailer.............tough to judge actual retail sales, although retailers are placing orders every month to replenish shelves (some faster than others).  According to NPD, Dyson unit share varies between 9.5% - 10.5%, which would support your 10% number.