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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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mole


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #193   Mar 19, 2008 3:15 pm
When it comes to vacuum cleaners DYSON makes a pretty nice wheelbarrow.

MOLE

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #194   Mar 19, 2008 5:04 pm
Yes, because the Dyson can remove (literally) mountains of dirt from the carpet.  Excellent observation.
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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #195   Mar 20, 2008 12:21 pm
mole wrote:
When it comes to vacuum cleaners DYSON makes a pretty nice wheelbarrow.

MOLE



Nice try.  The reality is Dyson sells approximately $1.2 billion worth of inventive vacuum cleaners annually.        DIB


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #196   Mar 20, 2008 1:33 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Nice try.  The reality is Dyson sells approximately $1.2 billion worth of inventive vacuum cleaners annually.        DIB



Hello DIB:

Assuming your number is correct and represents 2007 sales

for dyson.  I say it is not very impressive.  Why? 

Assume that the average cost of a new dyson is $400 [low side]

that means that dyson sells 3 million new vacuums a year. 

Do you think that is impressive and worthy of  boasting?  If so, why?

Assume further that these sales are disbursed

over 50 countries [or chose whatever number of countries you like],

the new vacuums per country is 60,000. 

For talking purposes, assume too that the average cost of a new dyson

is $500 [more likely but still probably low].  Then the new dysons sold

per year are 2.4 Million worldwide and 48,000 per country. 

That's not even a one hour sale on HSN for

one day.  My sense is wheel barrows would be more lucrative.

Carmine D.

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #197   Mar 20, 2008 1:36 pm
DIB:

BTW, I thought you were going to

provide the details on the Kenneth J.

versus dyson legal action for the vacuum

ball wheel facilitator?  Did you, and I

missed it?

Carmine D.

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #198   Mar 20, 2008 1:58 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

BTW, I thought you were going to

provide the details on the Kenneth J.

versus dyson legal action for the vacuum

ball wheel facilitator?  Did you, and I

missed it?

Carmine D.



Carmine, I could easily post the lawsuit.  But I did not want to publically put out Kenneth's  home town, etc.  So I'm giving it some thought, all the while I am getting our trailer and faimily ready for a vacation.  I will try to post (if I can get an internet conncetion, which I believe I can) during our vacation.        DIB

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #199   Mar 20, 2008 2:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
I say it is not very impressive.  Why? 

Assume that the average cost of a new dyson is $400 [low side]

that means that dyson sells 3 million new vacuums a year. 

Do you think that is impressive and worthy of  boasting? 

My sense is wheel barrows would be more lucrative.

Carmine D.


Carmine, while you constantly bash (there goes that word again!) the sales figures of the Dyson that are otherwise impressive to myself and most others here, you also give us NOTHING to compare them to.  Where are the Hoover sales figures for 2007?  What about Eureka/Electrolux, or better yet, Oreck?  I'd like to see how those compare.

Electrolux sold 3 million Model 30s TOTAL from 1937-1954 (excluding the WWII years of course).  That having been said, averaging 3 million machines PER YEAR is quite an accomplishment on Dyson's part, and is hardly anything to sneeze at.

I don't understand the relevance to the wheelbarrow, but I will say that IF Dyson were to make the Ballbarrow again, they would probably do quite well as it was a successful product at the time.  But, as I mentioned earlier, Dyson has some damn good "wheelbarrows" already, just read the customer reviews talking about the "bushels" of dirt removed from their carpets

-MH
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #200   Mar 20, 2008 3:19 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine, I could easily post the lawsuit.  But I did not want to publically put out Kenneth's  home town, etc.  So I'm giving it some thought, all the while I am getting our trailer and faimily ready for a vacation.  I will try to post (if I can get an internet conncetion, which I believe I can) during our vacation.        DIB



Enjoy your vacation. 

Carmine D.

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #201   Mar 20, 2008 3:43 pm
Motorhead wrote:
Carmine, while you constantly bash (there goes that word again!) the sales figures of the Dyson that are otherwise impressive to myself and most others here, you also give us NOTHING to compare them to.  Where are the Hoover sales figures for 2007?  What about Eureka/Electrolux, or better yet, Oreck?  I'd like to see how those compare.

Electrolux sold 3 million Model 30s TOTAL from 1937-1954 (excluding the WWII years of course).  That having been said, averaging 3 million machines PER YEAR is quite an accomplishment on Dyson's part, and is hardly anything to sneeze at.

I don't understand the relevance to the wheelbarrow, but I will say that IF Dyson were to make the Ballbarrow again, they would probably do quite well as it was a successful product at the time.  But, as I mentioned earlier, Dyson has some damn good "wheelbarrows" already, just read the customer reviews talking about the "bushels" of dirt removed from their carpets

-MH



I did not post/boast of any manufactuers' vacuum sales.  Why should

I have to defend them?  Why should I compare dyson sales to any brand's numbers?

I responded to DIB post [not you] who did boast and post about dyson's annual sales. 

I asked DIB why he thinks $1.2 B in annual sales is worthy of boasting about.

I'm not sure the $1.2 B is accurate, valid and/or correct. 

I don't know what year[s] it is for.  If it is even for more than one year.  Or dyson's best?

What/who is the source of the number?  DIB as far as I know.

I used DIB's number as a talking point to make a point.  You chimed in.  Are you DIB? 

You may think 2-3 Million worldwide units is "nothing to sneeze at."   But what did it cost

dyson to produce and sell the 2-3 million new dysons?  Do you know?  Does DIB know?

Do you think that is an important piece of information to know if one is quoting the annual dollar

sales? 

Let's say for talking purposes that it cost dyson $2 Billion dollars to make and sell

the $1.2 B in dysons?  Would you still say 2-3 M dysons is nothing to sneeze at? 

WRT wheel barrows:  My statement is clear.  My sense is that their annual sales

are more lucrative than vacuums.  Do you want to disagree?  

Carmine D.

This message was modified Mar 20, 2008 by CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #202   Mar 20, 2008 4:09 pm
Motorhead wrote:

Electrolux sold 3 million Model 30s TOTAL from 1937-1954 (excluding the WWII years of course).  That having been said, averaging 3 million machines PER YEAR is quite an accomplishment on Dyson's part, and is hardly anything to sneeze at.


-MH



Electrolux also made and sold the Model 12 [1930-1937]; the model 60 [1952-1955];

and the Model E [1954-1956].  Since the yearly number of all dyson models sold is

the number used, then should you also include these sales numbers too?

Carmine D.

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