Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

DC18 wrote:

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DC18,

I had no idea Dyson had hose extensions available.  I have never seen hose extensions on Dyson’s web sites in the past.  Were they similar (thick heavy connectors and spring) to the hose that comes on Dyson vacuums or where they more lightweight (better for dusting)?  Fantom hose extensions looked identical or near identical to the hose on the vacuum except (of course) one end had a male fitting.  Thanks.        DIB

DIB

I know they are not on the Dyson website, I'm sure they do them if you call the helpline.  I called to make them aware of the shorter hose lenght on the DC15 to the DC07 etc.. which they knew about (I'm assuming other customer called in too!), they where at the time producing an extension hose to fit onto the main hose.  I took a while to come but I was sent one free of charge.  It the same size and about the same length (extendable too) as the hose on the DC15 clips onto the main hose then you can attach the wand or the toold dircetly onto the end.

I can't see them doing this the DC24!

DC18

DC18 wrote:

They might, actually.

Consider someone living in a semi-detached, tired of lugging $#%*bersome cleaners about; wants a lightweight machine, buys a DC24, complains to Dyson about the short hose. Suppose Dyson addresses this problem? It has been done before, with the DC15.

I always liked the UK Hoover machines - they had the longest hoses on test, according to WHICH?

Speaking of Hoover, what happened to the Anniversary Centenary model that was touted?

(I see we have a ridiculous 'bot intercepting valid words and phrases. Might I suggest that the interception profiles be updated in some way?)

Trilobite wrote:

May I chime in, please? 

Interesting that you use "Centenary" which is more a brit usage.  Here in the US it's more commonly said as "Centennial."  Both words mark 100 years.

HOOVER in the UK was purchased by Candie a number of years ago and is not part of HOOVER which is now owned by TTI.  So a special edition that affects both HOOVER companies [here and there] is highly unlikely.

Looking at HOOVER US there are 3 factors that must co-exist concurrently to make a special edition model to mark an anniversary.

One:  A company with the wherewithal and inclination to produce and promote it.  Is TTI such a company?  Apparently not.  If it were, it would have produced a 100 year special edition for the Royal Company.

Two:  A successful model to use as the likely candidate.  The HOOVER Z was not.  Tho, it has a number of features, like the self-cleaning HEPA and electronic carpet height adjustments [both under patent] that are used now on new HOOVER models.  And the models are very popular in terms of sales despite the sluggish economy.

Third:  A vibrant economy where consumers are spending.  The US fell into a recession in the last half of 2007 and it is continuing still and much worse.  Experts predict it will continue worsening until at least the end of the current year. 

Not the right mix for a 100 year edition.  Having said that, it is not uncommon for a vacuum company to bring the special edition to market early/late because of the above conditions and keep it current for awhile.  Such was the case with the HOOVER 65 Golden Edition [marking its 50 years].  But I am no longer hopeful this is the case for HOOVER.

Hope that answers your question.

Carmine D.

As far as I understand it, Hoover UK did produce an Anniversary Edition for their 90th Year. The machine that wore that badge was the "Purepower" upright cleaner. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that a "DustManager" model (or another Purepower) will wear the Centenary logo.

Candy really has no idea at all. The UK site has a simple Flash animation, stating "100 Hoover Years"; period.

The Italian site sells UK-style "Purepowers" and "The One" cleaners. And yet the Italian site has a video celebrating the Hoover Company through the decades. Except that the cleaners shown in the later years are all American models (Windtunnels, etc). No mention of the  UK "Juniors", "Turbopowers", "Purepowers", "Vortex" models, French "Sensotronics" or Swiss "Aquatronic".

This I find very odd.

Hello Trilobite:

HOOVER USA had the HOOVER WT which celebrated it's 90 years: 1908 to 1998.  As part of the promotion some buyers received a handheld scalemodel of the WT with a tape measure inside in both inches and centimeters.  In two tone colors of brown and black and engraved on the underside with the commemoration.  I have one setting on my desk.

Carmine D.

Dyson may do this for the DC24 depends how many people make Dyson aware of this issue of the hose.  I can't see people wanting the DC24 for a semi-detacted house this model is way too small!  On the other hand if they did it's small and lite weight so cleaning the stairs holding the machine on a step would be ok.

As for hose length, I've never found the DC01, DC03, DC04 and DC07 a problem with hose length for cleaning stair (straight up and stair that bend round a corner) these Dyson models reach very well.  The reason for the short hose on the DC15 was due to design I think!  The base of the hose is higher up compared with other models!

DC18

CarmineD wrote:

That's cool! I have not seen the like since they made a tape measure using the "Connie" about a hundred years ago.  Wish I still had it.

Venson

Venson wrote:

Yes.  Two tone blue for the HOOVER 82.  And two tone tan for the HOOVER 84.  From the early 50's.  The "Connies" had a material tape and the giveaways did not commemorate an anniversary.  Just a brand new HOOVER model.  They were popular with the ladies who used them for their sewing kits.  The HOOVER WT has a metal tape and celebrates the 90th year in operations.  

Carmine D.

Trilobite wrote:
I noticed the same thing earlier, when I tried to use the word "cûmbersome" as well.  Hopefully the annoying problem will be corrected in the future, but for now, the accented "u" on the character map does fine (even if it does look a bit strange) ;-)

At any rate, I do remember seeing the Fantom extension hoses (one was also touted as part of a "car cleaning kit") in the mid-90's, although the hose on the IONA (later Thunder when it changed from 11 amps to 12)/Kenmore Destiny didn't seem to be that short (though I thought removing the handle was a little strange since it was the first machine I saw with that particular arrangement). 

The DC25 uses the same bin assembly as the DC18.  The DC24's bin is about half that size, so I can't see anyone wanting it for a decent-sized house, unless of course they don't mind emptying it often.  If it was my only choice, however, I wouldn't mind, but that is just my opinion.  I can see where it would be desirable for older women who need something that is lightweight and not very big (read: telescoping handle and easy to carry), or those living in small apartments.  In both situations the user could certainly benefit from good performance in a small cleaner, which is rare these days...even though it may be small, at least it will still clean, something that cannot be said about the lightweight uprights it was designed to compete with (either bagged or with clogging bin filters).

I didn't notice any problems with the hose length on the DC07, 14, 17, or 18.  I do agree that yes, the hose on the DC15 is a bit short, but it's definitely not the shortest I've used by any means.  I would guess that if it becomes an issue with the DC24, Dyson wouldn't have a problem correcting it, either by furnishing an extension hose or correcting the problem on new models after a certain period of time.

-MH