Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

As much as I like and respect James, he seems at times to over react in an attempt to fix problems.  Dyson, at present is being sued by Oreck, and was just sued by Hoover.  Oreck states Dyson’s do clog and is suing claiming this pitch hurt Oreck sales.  Oreck wants to collect money from James’ DC18 sales.  Getting sued in many countries can lead to an over reaction and an defensive position to the cleaning the pre-filter (and now HEPA).  Dyson needs to just stick a “time to clean your filter” indicator on all his great vacuums and the problem/s solved.  He is design guy and has a hard time (at times) making consumer friendly (dummy/worry free/child proof) tweaks.  Put an indicator on your vacuums Mr. Dyson, and you will put an end to the confusion and/or complaints and/or needless breakdowns.

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The DC24 looks to have a typical Dyson type HEPA (thickness and pleats) filter.  Overfilling past the “max line” on the bin, thereby dust loading the high efficiency filters/cyclones is real and plausible and leads to dirtying prematurely the pre-filter and then onto (dirt escaping) and passing onto and clogging the HEPA.  Who knows, perhaps this motor cranks out the rpm’s thereby putting out more carbon dust than what’s typical for James’ vacuums (it’s just a guess).

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Canister emptying and is it messy?  Well Dyson is suing Oreck over Oreck’s claim to just this and many other false advertisement claims (alleged by Dyson) that were made by Oreck when Oreck compare their XL21 (I think this is the number) to a Dyson DC14 in their infomercials and related marketing.  Read the directions and use a bag when empting your Dyson (Dyson says in the lawsuit) and eliminate much of the dust leaking when empting a bin.        DIB

HARDSELL wrote:

My Man:

In fact today, changed the oil, filter and air cleaner on the old Explorer XLT.  Yes Sir, still like to do it myself.  Especially here in the desert where it needs doing more often.

On the second point, HOOVER has a patent on a teflon coated bin filter.  Easier for the dust/dirt to fall off Allows washing with water.  Available in its least expensive bagless models, like the $100 EmPower.  Now that's a model that's been around since 2003 and still going strong.  Especially with Consumer Reports.

Carmine D.

I posted this picture only because I saw an earlier picture (from an online magazine) of a woman testing a DC24 and holding the vacuum above the floor (at her hip), just only so she could get enough reach to vacuum at ceiling height. – She was doing it incorrectly.  Remarkably, Dyson himself shows the proper way of using a hose and wand on the DC24 with its far reaching ability.  Well done!        DIB

DIB:

Thanks again for the photos, it does appear to be a user access port to get to the filter.

The photo of the cleaner next to James Dyson, makes the cleaner look like a child's toy.

I was wondering about the suction power rating for the DC24. It is supposed to be 100 airWatts. Would I be correct in thinking that lesser suction power excerts lower gravitational forces upon the dust particles, thus allowing more dust through to contaminate the pre-motor filters?

I wonder what electrical wattage the motor is, in this cleaner?

DIB:

Looking at James Dyson using the tools above the floor, the hose looks to be fully stretched, and a little on the short side. No use for cleaning a staircase.

Aha!!!

Just checked Currys.co.uk.

DC24 has 650 Watt motor, generating, apparently, 120 air Watts of suction power.

DC03 had a 700 Watt motor, achieving around 90 air Watts suction power.

I believe the DC24 has been designed for apartments and flats and small houses.  With the DC24 being small and lite in a small hoise cleaning the stairs th euser would have to hold/rest the vacuum on the stairs and they vacuum with the hose.   I had the same issue with the DC15 as the hose on that is smaller in length to the other models (DC04/07/14) which when I spoke to Dyson (UK) helpline they sent me out a flexible hose extension to solve this issue!

DC18

Do you think jaydee needs a wardrobe consultant?  Nehru jacket

and banded shirt collar.  Really!  Talk about retro look.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

I thought you liked retro.  How about all fhose old vacs.

Its a cute looking product and very stylish!!