Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HS:

It's not my idea.  It's Oreck's.  I can't take the credit.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Why does that not surprise me?  You know how the old saying goes, birds of a feather flock together...

CarmineD wrote:
I'm not an advocate of blindly following anyones advice no matter what the cost of purchase.  Different strokes for different folks.  What works or doesn't work for one person doesn't mean it'll be the same for me.

Motorhead wrote:

You consider it a privilege to know and "love" James in just a few short years of friendship.  I've known Dave for over 50 years.  He is an icon in the vacuum industry in the USA.  He and his vacuums pass the test of time.  He's probably the last of the best of the industry still around.  It is an honor and privilege to know him.  His children's children will call him blessed. 

The only feathers flocking around him are the ones that the dysons can't pick up in the match offs against ORECK.  Not to worry.  ORECK gets them up, contains securely for disposal in a huge paper bag, and leaves no feathers, dust and dirt behind.  Not in the air, on the vacuum or in the vacuum.  Simply Amazing.  More clean.  Less money.

Carmine D.

dusty wrote:

Way to go.  I'd buy a vacuum from you.  Why?  You're honest and sincere.  Good qualities in the vacuum sales and service industry.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
You know the only reason Oreck came up with that idea is because they couldn't sell the damn thing in the first place.  They were encouraging people to talk about it because it wasn't coming naturally as it did for the Dyson. 

Funny that all of the Oreck tests involve nothing but surface dirt...I'd love to see what happens with ground-in sand or potting soil (which the Dyson does well on).  I am fully aware that the Dyson takes a bit longer to pick up kapok on a rug than most because the brushroll isn't turning as fast as the Oreck's...I've seen the video of an Oreck XL21 and a Dyson DC14, and again with my own eyes when I tried a kapok test with a DC07.  The twist (or what is not seen) is that because of the slower brush speed, the Dyson can actually deep clean while the Oreck only removes the surface dirt...there will always be added dirt from within the carpet along with the test kapok in the bin.  These little "speed tests" mean NOTHING in the grand scheme of things.

And for what it's worth, the XL21 is $749, $200 more than the DC17 Absolute.  And that's if you're buying it from a big-box retailer.  Buy the DC17 from an independent and the XL21 will be $300 more.  Less money?  I think not. 

-MH

This thread is about DC24/DC25, so keep on topic.

Hello Mike:

I figured you chime in.  But I thought it would be because of this comment I made in my post here:

"The dyson "Never clogs. Never loses suction" mantra is coming back to haunt.  Takes more than a nifty change in wording and moving on.   Doesn't it?"

You let me down.

Carmine D.

BOYS,BOYS,BOYS, How many times do i have to tell you guys that the upright market is fading away and fast,just ask your customers what their floor plan is,95% of the floor plans today do not call for an upright.Canister/Tank machines with electric power nozzles clean as good as any upright out there,dont give me the cyclonic suction B.S. bagged bagless it just customer preference.

B.T.W does water filter the air...................

MOLE

Dyson will never go in the canister market,it dont know how to get it right,it seems like the public isnt swallowing their line of B.S. anymore.

Hard sell,you were suppose to give me a review on your rainbow,you know the one you have in storage.HA.HA.HA.

MOLE

mole wrote:
Mole, your statement baffles me, because uprights are still very prevalent today, and Dyson already *is* in the canister market.  Unless of course it's more wishful thinking which I wouldn't doubt coming from you.

First off, on the subject of canisters.  Dyson learned with the US DC11 (that may no longer be produced in the US but is still being produced elsewhere, FWIW) that people wanted a canister for other tasks besides bare floors and dusting, namely carpets.  That was answered in March of 2007 when a canister with an electric power nozzle (one of the best I have to say) was brought out.  Not to mention the upcoming canister model which I thought was going to be released last month but isn't on the Dyson website as of yet.  If you want to talk worldwide, then let's name them off:  DC12, DC19, DC20, DC22, DC23, and those aren't even all of them.  How's that for "will never be in the canister market?"

Now, to get this thread back where it was, at least somewhat related to the DC24, uprights perform just as well as canisters on bare floors if they have a provision for shutting off the brushroll and a well-designed nozzle.  The DC24 has both, making it a good candidate for both surfaces.  If the nozzle is anything remotely close to that of the DC15, then there's a good possibility it has a suction channel in the front for larger debris on bare floors as well.  I don't understand what you mean by "floor plans", because if we're talking multi-level, a canister would actually be more of a nuisance to carry up and down a flight of stairs (or several).  So in that regard, wouldn't an upright, especially one with a telescoping handle, be easier and better suited to this type of floor plan?  Looking at your statement again, we could say that traditional uprights with no bare floor capability are becoming less common, not modern uprights.

-MH