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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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dusty


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #114   Mar 1, 2008 5:15 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
FYI:  Per Dyson’s U.S. customer service, the DC24 pre and post (HEPA) filters will need to be cleaned ever 3 to 6 months.        DIB

Yet if you look at the machine, both filters are clearly labeled wash AT LEAST once a month.  Having run the machine around the store for a week I'd say every few months wouldn't be enough.
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dusty


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #115   Mar 1, 2008 5:16 pm
Acerone wrote:
Dusty, play around in the US or UK?
Only on holidays.  Canada the rest of the time :-)
Trilobite


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #116   Mar 2, 2008 5:01 pm
DIB: Thanks for that, I completely forgot about that exploded photo.

Dusty mentions about the filters being cleaned every month. Is this not going in the wrong direction? I thought Dysons' thinking was to have as little maintenance

as possible. Certainly, previous machines 'Root technology'  had 3 month intervals, and doesn't the alternative 'core separation / level 3 root technology' have longer washing intervals?

Seems like a counter-productive step to me; almost as bad as the cheap bagless' "...clean after every use..."

dusty


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #117   Mar 2, 2008 5:17 pm
Trilobite wrote:
DIB: Thanks for that, I completely forgot about that exploded photo.

Dusty mentions about the filters being cleaned every month. Is this not going in the wrong direction? I thought Dysons' thinking was to have as little maintenance

as possible. Certainly, previous machines 'Root technology'  had 3 month intervals, and doesn't the alternative 'core separation / level 3 root technology' have longer washing intervals?

Seems like a counter-productive step to me; almost as bad as the cheap bagless' "...clean after every use..."


"concentrated technology", seems to mean smaller and fewer cyclones resulting in less efficient dirt separation in the chamber which in turn means more cleaning of filters.  Personally, I think this machines size fits a market segment and the people buying it wont mind the extra maintenance it requires.  Either that or nobody will ever touch the filters, the machines will clog and they'll wonder why they ever spent the money on the darn thing in the first place

Dusty
DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #118   Mar 2, 2008 7:55 pm
dusty wrote:
Yet if you look at the machine, both filters are clearly labeled wash AT LEAST once a month.  Having run the machine around the store for a week I'd say every few months wouldn't be enough.

Dyson customer support was not up to speed on the in and outs of the new DC24/25, I was put on hold while customer support located the answer/s to my questions.  I did ask twice if the HEPA needed cleaning and each time was answered "yes and every 3-6 months".  That’s all I know of this.  Indeed, cleaning a HEPA once a month seems excessive.


Motorhead


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #119   Mar 2, 2008 8:48 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Dyson customer support was not up to speed on the in and outs of the new DC24/25, I was put on hold while customer support located the answer/s to my questions.  I did ask twice if the HEPA needed cleaning and each time was answered "yes and every 3-6 months".  That’s all I know of this.  Indeed, cleaning a HEPA once a month seems excessive.


Hi DIB,

I agree, it doesn't make any sense why Dyson would modify the pre-motor filter type for this particular model.  I thought that it would have the same pre-motor filter as the other models, that should be rinsed every 6 months. This is interesting.  I guess we'll find out the real details in due time.

-MH
dusty


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #120   Mar 2, 2008 9:20 pm
Motorhead wrote:
Hi DIB,

I agree, it doesn't make any sense why Dyson would modify the pre-motor filter type for this particular model.  I thought that it would have the same pre-motor filter as the other models, that should be rinsed every 6 months. This is interesting.  I guess we'll find out the real details in due time.

-MH
The rep hinted that changes may be coming to filter cleaning requirements to the rest of the line too.  Apparently they want the customer to be a little more involved with the machine rather than just a once a year rinse out.  As you say, time will tell.

Dusty
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #121   Mar 2, 2008 9:56 pm
What intrigues me most, is the haphazard way in which the new 'Core Separation Technology' is installed in the new range (...or not, as the case may be!)

The UK Dyson site is quite dreadful with the lack of information: ARGOS catalogue states DC22 does have Core Separation; Dyson site has no info.

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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #122   Mar 3, 2008 7:06 am
dusty wrote:
The rep hinted that changes may be coming to filter cleaning requirements to the rest of the line too.  Apparently they want the customer to be a little more involved with the machine rather than just a once a year rinse out.  As you say, time will tell.

Dusty



The dyson "Never clogs. Never loses suction" mantra is coming back to haunt.  Takes more than a nifty change in wording and moving on.   Doesn't it?

I posted about my parking lot experience with a female COSTCO customer who was returning a DC14 Exclusive [$469 last I checked] that lost suction after one year.  I asked her if she cleaned the filter?  She looked at me belligerently and said:  "I was told this vacuum never needed maintenance.  That's why I paid $500 for it. "  Not a happy camper.  I bet she got her money back after one year of use.  I wonder if that was a friend or family member who gave her that advice?  Or a dyson rep?  Or a COSTCO sales associate?  Or all of them combined? So much for hearsay.  I mean word of mouth, excuse me.  Best form of advertising. I like to add the caveat:  WHEN AND IF IT"S TRUE.

PS: She had the dyson instruction manual with her.  It didn't look as though it was read.

Carmine D.

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dusty


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #123   Mar 3, 2008 10:11 am
CarmineD wrote:
The dyson "Never clogs. Never loses suction" mantra is coming back to haunt.  Takes more than a nifty change in wording and moving on.   Doesn't it?

I posted about my parking lot experience with a female COSTCO customer who was returning a DC14 Exclusive [$469 last I checked] that lost suction after one year.  I asked her if she cleaned the filter?  She looked at me belligerently and said:  "I was told this vacuum never needed maintenance.  That's why I paid $500 for it. "  Not a happy camper.  I bet she got her money back after one year of use.  I wonder if that was a friend or family member who gave her that advice?  Or a dyson rep?  Or a COSTCO sales associate?  Or all of them combined? So much for hearsay.  I mean word of mouth, excuse me.  Best form of advertising. I like to add the caveat:  WHEN AND IF IT"S TRUE.

PS: She had the dyson instruction manual with her.  It didn't look as though it was read.

Carmine D.


And this is why it's a good idea to buy for a qualified vacuum dealer who would (hopefully) explain the ins and outs of how any machine works and what is required to keep it going.  Can't keep count of how many people bring in their Hoovers, Eureka, Bissells and such and tell me what crap they are.  Have they changed the belt?  No.  Filters? No.  The response when you tell them they have to?  Gee, they didn't tell me that where I bought it.  At least they got a good deal on chicken and tires when they purchased it.
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