Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Apparently there's a new Dyson model that will be launched in February at the VDTA Convention.  I don't know any further specifics on whether or not it's going to be a canister or upright, but apparently all attendees of the show will be able to see it and place their orders.  I wonder if the $899 pricetag will be a detriment to sales, or are Americans willing to pay a premium for superior performance and space-age motor technology?

Has anyone else heard anything yet?  I'm curious to know what it is as I bought the DC21 right when it came out in March.  That and the DC17 are the only ones that impressed me so far, it will be interesting to see how this one is.

Airblade:  The Dyson Airblade exhibiting at the Consumer Electonics Show.  News article here.  Dyson’s exposure to deep pocketed, high tech exhibitors (alone) justifies Airblades presence.

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Will the Airblade fail?  I hope not.  Can it succeed?  It should. - Look no further than Mitsubishis' (successful?) Jet Towel.  The Airblade technologies and features smoke Jet Towel’s (IMO).  There is plenty of info on the web to do your own comparisons.  Dyson has only one competitor at this price – Mitsubishi, those are good odds.  Dyson got the attention of Mitsubishi - the Jet Towel came to the US only after Dyson announced plans to market his Airblade here in the US.

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I know someone who knows little of Dyson and does not use his products.  She told me she used an Airblade at a restaurant.  “It was awesome, I love it.”, was her comment.  Restaurants who offer this Airblade in their washrooms cannot fail in the minds of its customers.  Never mind if it is cost effective or not, it is a win/win for both customer and restaurant owners.  Paper towels should be provided as well.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

A public restroom hand drier just doesn't appeal to me as a consumer electronic device.  The CES in LV has become unwieldy in recent years with all the various venues of electronics bombarding consumers all at the same time.  My sense is that the CES will be partitioned into key consumer segments of electronic gismos and offered in several different shows in the near future vice one conglomeration.  Even with that, the dyson AirBlade wouldn't be well suited for any CES venue.  It's more or less a "toaster" in form and function.  Now, add a screen with wireless cable channels and it may fly as a CE. 

I believe there is at least one more air hand drier on the market beside dyson and Mitsubishi.  It is the one that won the contract for use in the new NY public restrooms. 

Carmine D.

Hiya Carmine,

Funny the subject should come up but per the Times the Big Apple doesn't appear to be going for anything out of the ordinary for the everyday public other than a flower arrangement or two.  Do you think "The Donald" might have picked up some for a few of his spots?

Bryant Park

The Port Authority Bus Station

Another part of the Port Authority

Our first pay toilet -- and almost as fancy as we get until you hit the Waldorf.

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hello Venson:

Thanks for the pics and clarification.  All the casinos and hotels I've visited in LV use the conventional hand drying means too, like the big Apple.  There's a new one being built closeby to me and due to open in Nov 2008.  Have to see what they use in the WC.

The "Trumpster" may spring for a few dyson AirBlades at his new Trump Tower in LV but like all things with the Donald it always depends on what's in it for him.  Sanitaires and ORECKS are the vacuums of choice from my observations.  Even at the recent CES.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,

Since a good portion of Silicon Valley exhibits at CES, Airblade’s presence and exposure (to them) is justified.  Certainly CES exhibitors have Biotech friends who may appreciate and can afford a non-fecal-bacteria throwing hand dryer such as the Airblade’s.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

The last time silicon valley joined forces with biotechnolgy "hooters" was born.  This week's Las Vegas Exhibition of the AVN is a much better venue for 'hooters" than the CES.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

As a family man and father of young kids...  don't get me goin on Hooters.        DIB

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!

Back to dyson:  Do you think that dyson will suffer from a downside in sales with consumers due to the frequent update in his vacuums?  Especially with the canisters, if in fact it is a canister model? 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
That will be interesting.  Even though it's been out for 10 months, there hasn't been much talk about the Dyson DC21; it seems people tend to prefer the upright models.  However, the way I see it is that Dyson has something good with their canister design.  The design itself is not new; it started with the DC02 and while it has undergone modifications/improvements over the years, it is basically the same.  Remember the Fantom Lightning canister here?  Basically the same as the DC02, and you can see the DC21/22 resembles it in some ways.  Whether James himself and/or executives realize it or not is beyond me, but it almost seems like they should be pushing their canisters much more than they have been.  The DC11 Telescope design was (to me) both a flop and an embarrassment, and because of that I could see how some would not give current Dyson canisters much attention.  But with good marketing that potential problem could be easily overcome; people would look at it and see that it is a completely different machine.   I can say this from my experience using (and owning) the DC21 and knowing what a stellar performer it is.  On top of that, it is much more simple (namely the dirt path which is very direct); many "areas of complaint" on the uprights (complex ducting, leaky seals, little airflow, etc.), namely the DC07/14/15, are absent on this machine.

Just my 2-cents.

-MH

Hi Motorhead,

Your two cents is always of value.  However,  I just wanted to run this by you.  I just saw a first real test. 

I took a trip to Best Buy tonight and the vacuum aisle was a wasteland as usual.  Nothing but a Hoover or two, the obligatory handful of Dirt Devils of course, a Bissell and some beat up Dyson uprights and the DCV21 canister. I will have to admit that I've become curious about the DC21.  Why because a Dyson pitch video from HSN turned up on You Tube.  Okay . . .

A thing  I distinctly remember is that the host of the  "show" went about attacking fluff, cat littter and coffee grounds with the DC21 after which, despite the overfilled bin,  he showed that though there was dust residue at the inlet of the dust bin there was none in the airway after the filter just above it.  Naturally this was the first thing I went looking for. Oh, let me not leave this out -- the Best Buy in my neighborhood has to be just about the funkiest there is since they follow absolutely no rules.  That means that staff still has been using the display model to clean with.   Besides that spotted the "Slim Jim" way off in the computer department  and not looking all that dapper either.

Not meaning to digress -- The very clouded bin on the display model made it obvious that it had beeun used for clean up.  Naturally the first thing I did was remove the dust bin to take a peek at the airway at the top of the dust container and of course do the finger test.  A swipe of a finger inside showed that there was a good coating of dust in the top section of the dust bin.  The airway for outgoing air that it seals against it was also quite dusty  inside.  Sadlly, I found not much of a  cyclonic miracle had occured.  And I say sadly because I'd like to have seen one.

This does not mean that I dismiss the DC21.  I'd expect the same signs of fallability from my Iridium or any other similarly built canister under the same real life conditions.  Old or new, I'd like Dyson more if I had more of a feeling it was being developed to endure a certain modicum of carelessness with a purer result.

Best,

Venson