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DysonInventsBig
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #61 Jan 12, 2008 2:29 pm |
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Re: Airblade: The Dyson annual report along with its Airblade, in the news. Here. . Re: IECEE links: Thanks Trilobite. I know DC18 wanted to share this too, either way it is appreciated. James Dyson invents, and so it's not hard to predict new inventions and/or new product categories coming throughout this and next year (it is long overdue). DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #62 Jan 12, 2008 3:43 pm |
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Re: Airblade: The Dyson annual report along with its Airblade, in the news. Here. Is the article dated November 5, 2007 and/or May 11, 2007? I'm inclined to believe it is May 11, 2007 and archived on November 5, 2007. If that is the case, the information is for 2006 calendar year, not 2007.
Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #63 Jan 12, 2008 5:19 pm |
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Is the article dated November 5, 2007 and/or May 11, 2007? I'm inclined to believe it is May 11, 2007 and archived on November 5, 2007. If that is the case, the information is for 2006 calendar year, not 2007. Carmine D. Moose posted this, perhaps his info is most current. Here. DIB
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Motorhead
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #65 Jan 12, 2008 8:50 pm |
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I hear, haven't seen, that the City of New York opened new public bathrooms. I presume in part for the Pope's visit in April. I'm curious: Did dyson pitch for/win the hand drier business with the dyson AirBlade? Anyone know and care to share with the Forum. BTW, after 1 1/2 years on the market, I still have not seen/heard of dyson AirBlades in use anywhere in the USA. Has anyone else? Any major/minor dyson sales of this product to US businesses like hotels, schools, restaurants, casinos, theaters, sports complexes and/or arenas, airports,city, state, county, municipal, federal gov't buildings? Anywhere? Even in homes yet? My sense is that dyson would publish and broadcast this kind of information worldwide as a product promotion to win acclaim. Any available information on the actual sales numbers and dollars of this dyson product yet? Carmine D. I haven't seen the AirBlade anywhere either, yet, which is a disappointment since I would like to see and use one. Here it's only paper towels, or your standard World hand dryer (sometimes other brands). Since the AirBlade uses the DDM, I wonder if James built that solely to test the DDM in a real-world application to see how it would hold up, before moving on to using it in vacuums?
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CarmineD
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #66 Jan 12, 2008 9:55 pm |
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Since the AirBlade uses the DDM, I wonder if James built that solely to test the DDM in a real-world application to see how it would hold up, before moving on to using it in vacuums? If so, the dyson strategy, which is very costly [funding two new products with the same technology at the same time] back-fired. No sales for the AirBlade, no test results, huge sunk costs for the product with no tangible benefits.
A better dyson business strategy is determining which one of the two new products is likely to be successful and profitable. Then, go with the one. Get the sales and profits from the product before undertaking a spin-off product with the same technology. Rather than taking dual risks and costs that both products may have dismal results leaving the company with double the sunk costs for 2 failed products. The dyson core business is vacuums. Use the DDM in a new vacuum product and market it first and foremost, before using the "unproven" technology on an unrelated product [like a hand drier]. This gives the added benefit of reducing the retail price of the spin-off product [hand drier]. Why? Much of the R&D costs of the DDM would be amortized and deducted over the life cycle of the new vacuum sales, making the costs [losses] for the spin off product less and potentially the profits more [if there are sales]. And another benefit, a lower retail price can be set for the spin-off product. Still another benefit of honing in on one product first for the new technology, is getting it to the market quicker. This In turn gets the spin-off technology product to the market quicker too. Plus, management has more knowledge, based on the new technology experience, to decide if it will be profitable to bring the spin-off product to the market. Plain and simple business common sense. Carmine D.
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M00seUK
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #67 Jan 13, 2008 12:30 pm |
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We've had two Dyson Airblade units installed at the shopping mall near where I live. It's perfect for the site as the washroom in question is very small and the last thing you need is people in queues for the hand drier. Its digital motor is noticeably different in sound to the conventional type - you can hear it soft start and finish and as described, the airflow heats up within a few seconds due to the high velocity. I've never seen the airblade units in need of an urgent clean - it looks like it'll be just fine being cleaned as part the daily routine. One point is that as long as the digital motor holds up, I'd imagine it'll give many more hours between servicing than a standard type. At the business centre where my office is, the shared washrooms regularly have hand driers where the heater element has failed. It can go a very long time before it is reported to someone and even longer before it's fixed. Recent case studies PDF downloads have been added to the Dyson Airblade web site :- http://www.dysonairblade.co.uk/why/case_studies/
Recent patent filings suggest that Dyson is continually looking to increase the efficiency of the manufacturing process with the digital motor to make the cost more competitive to a standard motor type. Reliability is important and I suspect that the DC12's 'phone home' feature was more about getting back usage reports 'in the field' than providing enhanced customer service - from what I can work out from the DC22 photos, they're no longer using this feature? Lastly, the sound levels need to be reduced as much as possible. I understand that the DC12s with digital motor have a 'turbo' power setting for this reason. Very interesting that there appears to be two new airblade models in the pipeline. I wonder what the improvements might be? Cost could be one. A hand sanitizer could also feature - if you look up Dyson's peroxide making unit patent it suggests uses including a dishwasher, but also for hand sanitation. Although with regards to a germ control application (e.g. in hospitals) would this add any real benefit over existing wall mounted hand sanitizers? Maybe they can further improve the drying time; maybe they can further control the noise level.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #69 Jan 13, 2008 2:49 pm |
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Airblade: The Dyson Airblade exhibiting at the Consumer Electonics Show. News article here. Dyson’s exposure to deep pocketed, high tech exhibitors (alone) justifies Airblades presence. . Will the Airblade fail? I hope not. Can it succeed? It should. - Look no further than Mitsubishis' (successful?) Jet Towel. The Airblade technologies and features smoke Jet Towel’s (IMO). There is plenty of info on the web to do your own comparisons. Dyson has only one competitor at this price – Mitsubishi, those are good odds. Dyson got the attention of Mitsubishi - the Jet Towel came to the US only after Dyson announced plans to market his Airblade here in the US. . I know someone who knows little of Dyson and does not use his products. She told me she used an Airblade at a restaurant. “It was awesome, I love it.”, was her comment. Restaurants who offer this Airblade in their washrooms cannot fail in the minds of its customers. Never mind if it is cost effective or not, it is a win/win for both customer and restaurant owners. Paper towels should be provided as well. DIB
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