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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #88 Jan 16, 2008 3:45 pm |
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Hi Mole,
Perhaps you're referring to the DC22 if it is ever released here?
As Airblade said, and I've noticed this as well, the DC21 under-hyped and under-advertised. I can't remember ever seeing a commercial for it in the 10 or so months it's been out (7 for big-box stores). Sure, like any Dyson model it's not the cheapest vacuum around, but it is hardly the most expensive ($499 retail), even compared to some Dyson uprights (such as the DC17 and DC15 Animal models for $549, and of course the DC15). In fact I believe the DC11 Telescope, when it was out sold for this same amount. The difference of course was that the DC11 was not nearly as good as the 21 and also lacked an electric power nozzle (or Motorhead, hence my name). The Motorhead on the DC21 is one of the best power nozzles I've seen by far, the 2-piece brushroll is gear-driven and can be easily removed from the nozzle.
Since you mentioned in another thread that you own a vacuum store, has anyone tried to bring a broken Dyson in, and if so, which model(s)?
Hi Airblade,
Nice to see a Dyson insider here, I definitely look forward to your future posts. I do have a question for you: Isn't the wholesale/dealer-invoice price of the DC21 around $411? At least that's what I was told by a dealer when I bought mine. If it is, doesn't seem to be a huge markup there so I would venture to say that dealers who push Dysons aren't doing so to make a tremendous profit (unlike Miele).
-MH
What dealer in the right stage of mind,would put out 411.00 plus to sell a machine for 499.00. They[DYSON], are playing the dealers for suckers,fortunatly the professional shops are a little too smart for them,So the wolves are preying on the big box stores where 88.00 is big markup to them.If that machine costs DYSON more than $90.00 to make,then they are getting jolted.How many times do i have to tell you guy's it's the best 89.95 vacuum on the planet. THE GIGS UP MOLE
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #89 Jan 16, 2008 4:12 pm |
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Is that why Dyson sold more vacuums in the U.S. in 2007 then ever before?
Is dyson including the sale of the DC16 hand helds in its figures?
In the USA vacuum industry, hand helds are not included in the annual total sale of vacuums because handcleaners are not an upright and/or canister-tank vacuum. Carmine D.
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #90 Jan 16, 2008 4:23 pm |
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Is dyson including the sale of the DC16 hand helds in its figures? In the USA vacuum industry, hand helds are not included in the annual total sale of vacuums because handcleaners are not an upright and/or canister-tank vacuum. Carmine D.
Maybe their counting the repacks,sold on ebay.........Can anyone say REGINA..........
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #91 Jan 16, 2008 4:38 pm |
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Hi M.H. in your professional opinion ,whats the better machiine,for the 499.00. MIele plus bosch formula emer donatello dyson dc21. MOLE |
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #92 Jan 16, 2008 6:52 pm |
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I am not trying to get into a debate of machines, but. My Nephew and his wife just purchased a Big Bird colored vacuum at our local Sam's Club for a retail price $469. She used the vac exactly two (2) times. Dumping the bin after each room she cleaned. She did so to demonstrate how much dirt she was getting out of each room. When she pulled it out for it's third cleaning the machine didn't seem to be picking up, after few minutes the motor just shut down. They took it back, and was told they would have to send it into the service shop. They spent all of the christmas holiday with a cheap Dirt Devil vac to tidy up with. They have now been notified that the vacuum will not be repaired under warranty, because the filters had not been kept clean, and this constitues misues and abuse thus voiding the warranty. Apparently the motor is spent. I suggested that with as short of time it was owned, they should contact higher ups in the company and request a replacement. It is currently being considered but they have not heard anything yet.
Hello Airblade:
As a dyson insider what are your thoughts on Just's post and the facts and circumstances for this dyson? I'll understand if you can't speak about it on a public Forum. Carmine D.
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #93 Jan 16, 2008 9:41 pm |
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Hiya Motorhead, The DC21 at Best Buy has been in the store at least a few months and to the eye is in relatively fine physical shape. No visible parts were broken though I wondered at signs of abrasion on the plastic plate on the bottom of the power nozzle. Dyson does not seem make simple tasks easy for the novice. It took 20 or 30 seconds to figure out but I got the dust bin open but decided not to pursue figuring out how to get at the first filter since there was no way to neatly manage its inspection in a public place. However, there was definitely a very obvious accumulation of dust in the area above where air leaves the container. Also, I could not turn the cleaner on because our Best Buy does not provide easily accessible outlets for testing vacuums. (After several years they have yet to provide a solution to the problem.) All display items in the vacuum aisle are kept off the floor and on shelves and must be taken down and carried an aisle or two away to plug them in. (I honestly don't know how this store sells anything.) In any event, suction was not the issue for me that moment. I simply wanted to see, per the HSN pitch, whether dust was as well contained as claimed. As for what is cleaned, My Best Buy has vinyl tiles in aisles plus large expanses of the usual very low pile industrial carpeting. There's little fluff to be picked up but fine, powdery dust just about the same in type as I encounter at my office. Best, Venson |
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #95 Jan 17, 2008 7:15 am |
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Do you think that dyson will suffer from a downside in sales with consumers due to the frequent update in his vacuums? Especially with the canisters, if in fact it is a canister model? Carmine D.
With the VDTA scheduled for Las Vegas next month and getting Forum coverage already, I revisit my earlier question above for all you to consider. With the DC21 less than 8 months old and with a retail price of $499 [usually sells for $469] another new dyson cann so soon for big box store venues will compete with the existing DC21 in form, function and price. Good/bad for dyson and its customers? Especially in light of the dismal 2007 Holiday season sales and the "recession" looming not only in the USA but around the world. Don't take my word for it. Read for yourself.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080116/ap_on_bi_ge/bank_earns http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=5976261&ch=4226720&src=news Therefore my thought that a full size but lighter and easier to use upright vacuum [vice the DC17] is more practical from a business perspective from dyson than yet another new canister. Carmine D.
This message was modified Jan 17, 2008 by CarmineD
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