Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Apparently there's a new Dyson model that will be launched in February at the VDTA Convention.  I don't know any further specifics on whether or not it's going to be a canister or upright, but apparently all attendees of the show will be able to see it and place their orders.  I wonder if the $899 pricetag will be a detriment to sales, or are Americans willing to pay a premium for superior performance and space-age motor technology?

Has anyone else heard anything yet?  I'm curious to know what it is as I bought the DC21 right when it came out in March.  That and the DC17 are the only ones that impressed me so far, it will be interesting to see how this one is.

The DDM from past articles I've read was adapted for the Airblade so there may be differances from the one that is in the DC12\DC12 Plus in Japan.  The basis of the DDM is used in both!  I'm sure Dyson will continue to develope this project - Dyson Digital Motor.  I personally don't think he used the Airblade to test the DDM's use in a wider area, the DC12 in Japan has given the Dyson enough proof I would of thought to say it works hence the DC22 in Japan.   Dyson is probably already on the 3rd, 4th generation of the DDM and from what M00seUK says 'to increase the efficiency of the manufacturing process', and I also believe to make the motor even smaller and the electronics that go with it!

One thing that is a little strange is apart from the Airblade now, why Dyson has not launched the DDM in a vacuum in the UK!?  After all it is where it all began mainly!

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Airblade:  The Dyson Airblade exhibiting at the Consumer Electonics Show.  News article here.  Dyson’s exposure to deep pocketed, high tech exhibitors (alone) justifies Airblades presence.

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Will the Airblade fail?  I hope not.  Can it succeed?  It should. - Look no further than Mitsubishis' (successful?) Jet Towel.  The Airblade technologies and features smoke Jet Towel’s (IMO).  There is plenty of info on the web to do your own comparisons.  Dyson has only one competitor at this price – Mitsubishi, those are good odds.  Dyson got the attention of Mitsubishi - the Jet Towel came to the US only after Dyson announced plans to market his Airblade here in the US.

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I know someone who knows little of Dyson and does not use his products.  She told me she used an Airblade at a restaurant.  “It was awesome, I love it.”, was her comment.  Restaurants who offer this Airblade in their washrooms cannot fail in the minds of its customers.  Never mind if it is cost effective or not, it is a win/win for both customer and restaurant owners.  Paper towels should be provided as well.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

A public restroom hand drier just doesn't appeal to me as a consumer electronic device.  The CES in LV has become unwieldy in recent years with all the various venues of electronics bombarding consumers all at the same time.  My sense is that the CES will be partitioned into key consumer segments of electronic gismos and offered in several different shows in the near future vice one conglomeration.  Even with that, the dyson AirBlade wouldn't be well suited for any CES venue.  It's more or less a "toaster" in form and function.  Now, add a screen with wireless cable channels and it may fly as a CE. 

I believe there is at least one more air hand drier on the market beside dyson and Mitsubishi.  It is the one that won the contract for use in the new NY public restrooms. 

Carmine D.

Hiya Carmine,

Funny the subject should come up but per the Times the Big Apple doesn't appear to be going for anything out of the ordinary for the everyday public other than a flower arrangement or two.  Do you think "The Donald" might have picked up some for a few of his spots?

Bryant Park

The Port Authority Bus Station

Another part of the Port Authority

Our first pay toilet -- and almost as fancy as we get until you hit the Waldorf.

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hello Venson:

Thanks for the pics and clarification.  All the casinos and hotels I've visited in LV use the conventional hand drying means too, like the big Apple.  There's a new one being built closeby to me and due to open in Nov 2008.  Have to see what they use in the WC.

The "Trumpster" may spring for a few dyson AirBlades at his new Trump Tower in LV but like all things with the Donald it always depends on what's in it for him.  Sanitaires and ORECKS are the vacuums of choice from my observations.  Even at the recent CES.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,

Since a good portion of Silicon Valley exhibits at CES, Airblade’s presence and exposure (to them) is justified.  Certainly CES exhibitors have Biotech friends who may appreciate and can afford a non-fecal-bacteria throwing hand dryer such as the Airblade’s.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

The last time silicon valley joined forces with biotechnolgy "hooters" was born.  This week's Las Vegas Exhibition of the AVN is a much better venue for 'hooters" than the CES.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

As a family man and father of young kids...  don't get me goin on Hooters.        DIB

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!

Back to dyson:  Do you think that dyson will suffer from a downside in sales with consumers due to the frequent update in his vacuums?  Especially with the canisters, if in fact it is a canister model? 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
That will be interesting.  Even though it's been out for 10 months, there hasn't been much talk about the Dyson DC21; it seems people tend to prefer the upright models.  However, the way I see it is that Dyson has something good with their canister design.  The design itself is not new; it started with the DC02 and while it has undergone modifications/improvements over the years, it is basically the same.  Remember the Fantom Lightning canister here?  Basically the same as the DC02, and you can see the DC21/22 resembles it in some ways.  Whether James himself and/or executives realize it or not is beyond me, but it almost seems like they should be pushing their canisters much more than they have been.  The DC11 Telescope design was (to me) both a flop and an embarrassment, and because of that I could see how some would not give current Dyson canisters much attention.  But with good marketing that potential problem could be easily overcome; people would look at it and see that it is a completely different machine.   I can say this from my experience using (and owning) the DC21 and knowing what a stellar performer it is.  On top of that, it is much more simple (namely the dirt path which is very direct); many "areas of complaint" on the uprights (complex ducting, leaky seals, little airflow, etc.), namely the DC07/14/15, are absent on this machine.

Just my 2-cents.

-MH