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Motorhead
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #113 Aug 30, 2008 1:56 pm |
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Dyson missed the boat, pardon the pun, with the DC16's operation and marketing. Recently, I did some work at my daughter's house and made a mess before and after the job was complete. I took along my 1970 HOOVER Swingette to do the cleaning up before and after. Tho I would have preferred a hand held non-corded like the DC16 for the tasks. Not with a 6 minute charge for $150 [straight suction] and $200 [revolving brush]. I think dyson missed the market for its hand held: Contractors and home improvement repair persons. But before the DC16 can survive in this venue, it needs a longer run time. Carmine D. Hi Carmine, I agree with you there, the DC16 would have been a good effective handheld for contractors who need something to pick up drywall dust and other debris in small spaces. With the cyclones fine dust wouldn't clog the filters like the other contractor-grade cordless handhelds out there (Ryobi, B&D, etc.). Like you said, a longer run time would definitely be in order. Possibly even an increase in voltage to provide more power. But it would also need something else. Part of the problem I've noticed on the current DC16 is that the dirt container is very small (almost miniscule); there is definitely the potential for some debris to become lodged in the inlet or between the bin and shroud. Also, while the attachment port is of a decent size, the opening of the flat nozzle is too small for jobsite debris. Increasing the overall size by 50% would work, in other words beef it up a bit. It could very well become the second most useful tool next to the cordless drill. Except for wet pickup, why would anyone need to lug around the big Shop-Vac when they could just reach for the handheld and empty it out when finished? -MH
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CarmineD
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #114 Sep 3, 2008 12:34 pm |
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To my knowledge, no USA vacuum maker has ever marketed a car/boat hand held vacuum cleaner using power from the battery, save some specialty models but no name vacuum brands. Carmine D. I recently received an email contradicting my above statement. ORECK sells an Auto Vac with a 15 foot cord that plugs into the accessory power outlet of the car. I'm not sure who makes the vacuum for ORECK. It's rated number 1 by a leading auto journal and is awarded 5 Stars. It doubles as a flashlight.
http://www.oreck.com/small-home-appliances/xlauto_vac.cfm I'm also told that it routinely sells for $20 with shipping of $5.45 from ORECK and carries a ONE YR. warranty. Carmine D.
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Motorhead
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #115 Sep 3, 2008 9:54 pm |
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Carmine, I believe the Oreck auto vac is Douglas (ReadiVac) made, as is the Ironman canister. Douglas also made the previous incarnation of the Oreck rechargeable and auto hand vac, residential wet/dry vac (no longer produced as I can't find anything on it anymore, the commercial models are of course still around), stick vac (Oreck has since switched to a different type of stick vac different from the Douglas and I can't tell who makes it), and revolving-brush hand vac. Douglas also private-labeled some things for Kirby at one point, namely their revolving-brush hand vac (labeled the "Vacuette" just like the early upright) and auto vac. -MH
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CarmineD
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #116 Sep 4, 2008 6:43 am |
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MH: I had heard the ORECK-Douglas connection before and you may well be right. On a related note, it now appears in the wake and aftermath of Hurricane Gustav [just 3 years after Katrina], that ORECK's decision to move out of New Orleans, Louisiana in favor of Cookeville, Tennessee was the right and bright move. Carmine D.
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"There is no BEST or PERFECT vacuum cleaner"
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #117 Sep 5, 2008 4:35 pm |
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Carmine,
I believe the Oreck auto vac is Douglas (ReadiVac) made, as is the Ironman canister. Douglas also made the previous incarnation of the Oreck rechargeable and auto hand vac, residential wet/dry vac (no longer produced as I can't find anything on it anymore, the commercial models are of course still around), stick vac (Oreck has since switched to a different type of stick vac different from the Douglas and I can't tell who makes it), and revolving-brush hand vac.
Douglas also private-labeled some things for Kirby at one point, namely their revolving-brush hand vac (labeled the "Vacuette" just like the early upright) and auto vac.
-MH I do not know if you can say that Douglas "private-labeled" for Kirby when Douglas and Kirby are owned by the same company S&F(owned by Berkshire Hatheway). Douglas models were also under the Kirby banner like the corded Vacuette, the rechargeable Split Second handvac and the Split Second II, which was a handvac that plugged into your automobile cig lighter.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #119 Sep 8, 2008 9:13 pm |
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Any word on the DC27? I don't know if there is a connection and/or just a coincidence. Local SAM's Club stores are pricing the dyson DC17 Total Clean for $399. That's a savings/discount of $150 off the regular price for the DC17 of $549. It beats the routine monthly 20 percent off from Bed Bath & Beyond on the $549 retail of the DC17 which comes to $109 for a price of $440. The DC17 is not listed on the SAM's Club Web Site for sale. The only other dyson for sale on the Web Site is the DC18 Slim but the Site says none are available and/or in stock and/or back order. Carmine D.
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DC18
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #120 Sep 9, 2008 6:59 pm |
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I take it the DC27 like the DC17 will be for the USA market and no where else? Anybody any clues or ideas as to what the DC26, DC28 may be? Wonder of the 'ball' feature will appear on any of them!? DC18
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