Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Saw the Dyson Airblade commercial for the first time last night. Anyone else seen it yet?

CarmineD wrote:
Hello Carmine,

Your judging the Dyson (fill in the blank) ______________ product with the usual anti-Dyson bias. With regards to the Dyson Airblade, you're convinced the average man or woman prefers public restroom hand dryers that blow fecal bacteria at high rate of speed versus the [HEPA] cleaned air Airblade.

Re: Making money
Your quite impressed when Bill Gates uses his profits from predatory and monopolistic practices to finance his so-call “selfless giving".  You go as far as posting the dollar amount of this “selflessness”.

DIB

Hi DIB:

Contrare Mein Herr.  You judge dyson with your pro-dyson bias.  I use the merits of the products: Specs and features.  Price and performance. 

You must remember DIB, I only use the money measure when you do!  To respond in kind to you.  Forbes' Gates vice Forbes' Dyson.  Your primary standard of success as posted here:  Dyson's billions; Dyson's Engineering school costs; Airblade's profits...ad nauseum.  You, sir not me.  

All the while I keep saying to you, it's not about the money.  Never should money be used as the best and final measure of a man/company's business success.  Much too shallow and meaningless a measure.

Carmine D. 

mole wrote:

I'll bet you're right MOLE.  Based on personal observation, most male restroom patrons have the same philosophy expressed so well here by HARDSELL:

HARDSELL wrote:

I suspect even them there who don't wash their privates regularly follow HS's philosophy.  Probably many more than we believe.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

The problem with Youtube videos is that there is no independent objective vetting and verification of the information and demonstrations.  It's not like there is a "snopes" for youtube.  The credibility of the youtube videos is dependent on the integrity and/or intentions and motives of the source.  Dyson is the source so this video puts a dyson sales spin on the Airblade presentation. 

You must remember DIB, that restroom patrons care less about the "wow factor" of the necessities in the toilet facilities.  As long as the needed amenities are there to use, if the patron is inclined, [and I'm estimating that 1 out of 2 males follow HARDSELL's philosphy] that's all they care.  Which is both HARDSELL and MOLE's point.  Tho, HS uses sarcasm very bitingly, as he usually does, to defuse my enthusiasm for the XLerator's performance.  [Dah, it's a hand dryer!]  

HARDSELL wrote:

Of course, HS's personal and professional dyson leanings soon turned his comments here very serious as did the discussions when Matt mmc Airblade entered the foray.  Thanks to your [DIB] petition for professional help.  He's here at dyson's beck and call.

Patrons don't buy hand dryers for their homes, like they do their vacuums, and personally use them in their homes.  Patrons expect that the management will provide practical products to serve restroom purposes.  Paper, towels etc.  The push now for going green is with hand dryers.  If a standard $700 model works fine and has for over 48 years, why spend $1400 on a new notioned one?  Because dyson says so?  Yeah, right.  How's that working for dyson?  Not too well.   [Which is MOLE, Venson's point.  And HS's point too:  "We have had those hand dryers in TN for some time.  Good to know that the west is catching up with us red necks".  Can we expect a Youtube dyson 'fecal sequel?'   Here's a novel thought:  Use the extra bucks saved on the Xlerator on the "wow factor" amenities, not the room for nature calls.  Common business sense.  Even a 6 year old can figure it out.

The best way to promote hygiene among the male patrons, save a sanitary expert from the NSF to police the restroom patrons  [ NSF is probably the reason for the 18 percent increase in new dyson hires in 2008.  A wholly owned subsidiary of dyson to define and measure standards for clean dry hands],  is to have a gorgeous female cocktail waitress skantily clad, meet and greet men on their way in and out.  It would get mens' attention and make them aware of their personal hygiene habits.  Knowing that this babe is there watching them.   Sort of like having your Mother tell you when you were a kid to wash your hands after going.  Only alot more sexy!  Tho, some like HS, would still not bother.

Carmine D.

M00seUK wrote:
Any certainties at this stage on a v2? By the way, the model numbers previously seen  AB01, AB02, AB03 appear to related to different models of the original for different regions.


Moose,
I may of misspoke of a newer/smaller Airblade patent pending (Europe).  I honestly cannot remember if I saw this or if it was Mitsubishi making a smaller hand dryer (smaller than the Jet Towel).

DIB

My dear Wife and I were invited to a VIP opening of the new TARGET store in N. Las Vegas one evening this week.  With retailers tanking, we were surprised by the opening, which apparently was approved even before the highway was built with on off access road [just completed].  Beautiful store.  Excellent store staff.  STARBUCKS and PIZZA HUT inside too.  Absoluetly customer friendly.  We returned after a few days and were recognized by many of the store staff.  Grand Opening is officially tomorrow. 

Bathrooms are luxurious.  Comparable to those in the new LAs Vegas casino/hotels.  Hand dryers?  Absolutely.  Brand?  XLERATOR.  Sorry, no Air Blades.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I am glad to hear of American ingenuity and manufacturing doing well (it seems).  I do think the Airblade can and should be simplified into a less expensive and functionally better consumer product.
DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Congrats!  Nice to hear you say so after me/others have been saying the same for years.

Carmine D.

According to Prevention Magazine which interviewed and reported findings from a group of doctors who are experts in infectious diseases, paper towels are preferred and recommended over air hand driers.  Why?  The consensus among the group is that drying your hands with towels dislodges more of the germs than blow drying.  Perhaps the reason wherever there are hand driers, there are also hand paper towels.  Also the hot dry air tends to dry and flake skin with repeated daily washings through the days.  The latter [dry fllaking hand skin] increases spread and growth of hand germs.  Interesting........

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
That is intriguing Carmine, particularly in light of standard hot air hand dryers regardless of the new Airblade.

vacmanuk wrote:

I thought the same Vacmanuk.  Goes against conventional wisdom.  But here in the states it seems this is common for scientific fact especially with food/drink and health concerns.  We go from one common rule to another very different one just after a few years of indoctrination.  Like economists, doctors have all different opinions on the same matter/issue and take turns proclaiming the latest to the consumers, who are left scratching their heads.

Carmine D.