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iMacDaddy
Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine
Joined: Oct 30, 2007
Points: 110
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Dyson DC22
Original Message Oct 30, 2007 9:38 am |
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DC18
Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #32 Nov 23, 2007 5:19 am |
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Hello DIB Thanks for posting the patent links to both. My money is on Dyson too. I do prefer the new motorhead on the DC22 to the DC21 like Motorhead says it looks slimmer. Looks like it has one long brush bar on the picture unlike the DC21 motorhead where the 2 brush bars attach to the geared mountings either side. I will be interesting to see this Core Seperation in the new uprights from Dyson. Although the DC17 with its level 3 sort of answers that question as to how they may go about it!? I would like them to use something simular to the DC22 Motorhead on a new upright giving a slimmer cleaner head/body. Onr thing looking at different pictures and the Dyson Japan Website of the DC22 it doesn't look much bigger than the DC12! After all they prefer smaller vacuums because of the limited space they have over there! DC18
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #33 Nov 26, 2007 2:03 pm |
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Hi, Nobody asked me but . . . Online shoppers, Sears has a nice price drop AND a discount for those who just must have a Dyson DC21. However, 9:00 p.m. today is the end of the line. The price on the DC21 is $474.99 with an additional 10% off "Cyber Monday" discount (-$47.50) AND shipping is free as the order is over $49.00. Final cost, not including local sales tax, is about $427.00. Check it out if your of a mind. This is not a recommendation of Dyson. It's just that God knows I love a good sale. Happy shopping and no I don't work for Sears, Venson
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #34 Mar 10, 2008 3:58 pm |
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My neighbor was kind enough to translate (best as possible) the wording on this DC22 packaging (below). DIB 1) 30 times better (filtering) than any cyclone vacuum. 2) Motorhead does not slow down vs.a turbine nozzle. 3) Updated Root with Core separator. 4) “About” 7 years, you do not have to touch filter for 7 years. 5) 2 yr. warrantee. < This and other DC22 pics from a Japanese blog (while on blog, click pics to enlarge). Here.
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bucks03
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 76
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #35 Mar 13, 2008 6:04 pm |
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I had a look at the DC22, its similar size to Dysons previous DC05. I don't like the DC22 as it has PLASTIC for its telescopic wand not the usual alluminium (though I never liked the aluminium) I wish Dyson would go back to the steel they used for the first model, seemed better quality. The plastic finish the telescope 'handle' looks like poor with some 'flash' lines. Its probably a good machine but I really don't like the plastic 'wand'. Dysons bin capacity is a bit of a joke compared to the older models, my DC04 holds a full 4 litres of dirt, the DC07 hold 3 litres, DC14 hold 2 litres but later models hold a small amounts like 1 plus litres which means more emptying, not that this is difficult just annoying if machine fills whilst in middle of vacuuming. I have kept with my DC04 and spare DC05 but I not too keen on the later models. Why does the Shroud take up so much space in the bin in the newer models?
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #36 Mar 13, 2008 8:18 pm |
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I had a look at the DC22, its similar size to Dysons previous DC05. I don't like the DC22 as it has PLASTIC for its telescopic wand not the usual alluminium (though I never liked the aluminium) I wish Dyson would go back to the steel they used for the first model, seemed better quality. The plastic finish the telescope 'handle' looks like poor with some 'flash' lines. Its probably a good machine but I really don't like the plastic 'wand'. Dysons bin capacity is a bit of a joke compared to the older models, my DC04 holds a full 4 litres of dirt, the DC07 hold 3 litres, DC14 hold 2 litres but later models hold a small amounts like 1 plus litres which means more emptying, not that this is difficult just annoying if machine fills whilst in middle of vacuuming. I have kept with my DC04 and spare DC05 but I not too keen on the later models. Why does the Shroud take up so much space in the bin in the newer models? Thank you for posting your comments on this machine. I had no idea that plastic was used instead of aluminum on the pipe. Do you know if the wand weight is lighter than the Stowaway’s? A lighter weight TW wand was badly needed. The Stowaway’s TW is heavy, bulky and the handle position directly inline with the axis line of the pipe, making turning the wand much harder than necessary (little or no leverage). I own the DC05 Motorhead and think it is great! – Certainly better and easier to use than my DC21. The pipe is aluminum with a sister pipe that is plumbed with the electrical, it is very sturdy, easy and fast to adjust to any height. I believe if Dyson would have instead, introduced the wand and power nozzle off the DC05 versus what came on the DC11, the 11 would have been a winner here in the US. Dyson just needs to quit over-engineering his stuff (at times). DIB
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bucks03
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 76
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #37 Mar 14, 2008 8:26 am |
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HI DysonInventsBig The plastic that is used for the DC22 TW in my opinion doesn't make the wand feel lighter, the aluminnium used on other models in very lightweight anyway. To be honest I like a slight heavy solid feel as opposed to the light flimsy feel. Maybe I'm being fussy but the whole 'feel' of latter Dysons just doesn't feel as good as previous machine, I don't like the new flat out tools at all. The Dyson DC05 when first lauched used to be dispacthed with a steel soleplate and wand from around 2002 / 2003 Dyson started sending with a plastic soleplate and aluminium wand which just didn't feel as good as the previous ones. Other vacuum cleaners on market are plastic but Dysons are pretty much contructing the while thing from plastic, I wonder if one day they will just make it clip together with snap on clips, getting rid of screws all together. I agree the DC05 Motorhead was a good machine, just a shame that there was a problem with the first design of Motorhead which caused the wires to become exposed when the 'joint' broke but this didn't happen to all users. Dyson modified this anyway and where good at sending out replacements. Do you know why Dysons has changed the design on the DC24 and DC25 to have both the filters washable? My DC04 has liftetime POSTMOTOR filter as on DC05 which has not been changed in 5 years, it is very black with carbon dust but is still in use with no need to change. I have noticed through that my DC04 does let some carbon dust out through the exhaust. Thanks for reading.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #38 Mar 14, 2008 8:33 am |
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I have kept with my DC04 and spare DC05 but I not too keen on the later models. Why does the Shroud take up so much space in the bin in the newer models? Surprised no dyson admirers answered. Airblade? Anything to say?
The largest shrouds I saw are with vacuums of years gone by. The Lewyt and Filter Queen bagless canns of the 40's. Tho, I doubt they called them shrouds. The full circumference of the vacuums and probably half the volume of the bottom dirt container. Carmine D.
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bucks03
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 76
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #39 Mar 14, 2008 8:40 am |
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Surprised no dyson admirers answered. Airblade? Anything to say? Carmine D. Hi I'm surprised too. Thought someone would have known the answer to this one. Do you get where I am coming from, why would a vacuum cleaner manufacturer not make use of the bin capacity, the shroud is so big in Dysons and the MAX mark is rather low down compared to the first generation of UK Dyson in the late 90s. These are 4 lites and the shroud was never that big but these where DUAL CYCLONE machine.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #40 Mar 14, 2008 8:56 am |
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Hi I'm surprised too. Thought someone would have known the answer to this one. Do you get where I am coming from, why would a vacuum cleaner manufacturer not make use of the bin capacity, the shroud is so big in Dysons and the MAX mark is rather low down compared to the first generation of UK Dyson in the late 90s. These are 4 lites and the shroud was never that big but these where DUAL CYCLONE machine.
Hello Bucks03:
I'm with you. BTW, Filter Queen and Lewyt called the shrouds: "Circular shields." Made of aluminum. Paper thin filters called 'cones' [because of their shape] was the only separation of the shroud from the dirt. Carmine D.
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mole
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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #41 Mar 14, 2008 9:14 am |
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IT's more than likely about air movement,Canisters with all the hoses and powerheads attached,the cfm drops [not suction but the speed of the suction].Dyson has to play with shroud location ,shroud size, the smaller diameter the the more static suction is created,sort of like sucking liquid throuh a straw,The machine has to move so much air through it before it can even think about cleaning.Hence ,why it could be called a VACUUM CLEANER.] Yes the cyclones block after a certain time,i just wish they were easy for the owners to clean ............ MOLE
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