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DysonInventsBig
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Dyson vacuum & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Original Message Nov 22, 2007 12:23 am |
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DC18
Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #224 Jul 4, 2008 6:25 pm |
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DC18: In the USA maunfacturers build in a 7 year useful life before the household appliances become obsolete. No rational person doubts and/or denies that models are discontinued. I'm surprised it's taken dyson this long. I suspect the unforeseen take back on the boat load of WM dysons had something to do with it. Can't leave Best Buy stores holding the bag on all these unsold DC07-s while it and retailers are bailing out of them. But, it appears that one poster in particular here denies that the DC07 and DC14 are getting scrubbed by dyson and all its retailers. Continues to post otherwise. As though dyson will manufacture ad infinitum. When he does post, I rebut that dyson is discontinuing the DC07 and DC14 and so are its retailers. Maybe, now that he's heard it from a dyson source Matt mmc Airblade he will stop posting that dyson continues to make and sell these models. Maybe not. Thanks again Matt mmc for the unsolicited clarification. Carmine D. Carmine D
I can quite believe the Dyson DC07 will be discontinued, like I said we only have the base model DC07 here in the UK on sale at a very low price in some shops. It's been like this a while now so I can see it being dropped completely soon! I wouldn't be surprised if the DC14 gets replaced by another model soon and the DC14 will be dropped. DC18
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #225 Jul 5, 2008 6:18 am |
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Hey DC18: Like I said, it's the normal course of business. The DC07, to answer Matt, stayed the course not because of its popularity. It's not that good for rug cleaning. Evidence: Kapoc rug test and less than mediocre Consumer Reports ratings especially for carpet cleaning. There's just so many DC07 and 14-s that were made and sold to big box retailers that are still on shelves and warehouses unsold after 6 years. Plus, dyson adding new models every year competing for sales with all of these old models. The reason Wal*Mart never carried the dyson line. But reluctantly agreed to exclusive models which struck out 2 times, 3 if you count the DC07 All Floors. Not because Wal*Mart, the largest US big box retailer, didn't want the latest and greatest. It did. But it wanted to discount the old models to make room. Dyson had a hissy fit. And Wal*Mart kicked dyson out. At least until dyson gravolled back. The prices on these new DC07-s are dropping fast as well in the USA. So are their refurbs. And as you would expect, there are alot of dyson DC07 refurbs. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #226 Jul 5, 2008 6:50 am |
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Like I said, it's the normal course of business. The DC07, to answer Matt, stayed the course not because of its popularity. It's not that good for rug cleaning. Evidence: Kapoc rug test. Mediocre Consumer Reports ratings especially for carpet cleaning. There's just so many DC07 and 14-s that were made and sold to big box retailers that are still on shelves and warehouses unsold after 6 years. Plus dyson adding new models every year competing for sales of these old models. [The reason Wal*Mart never carried the dyson line. But reluctantly agreed to exclusive models which struck out 2 times, 3 if you count the DC07 All Floors]. The prices on these new DC07-s are dropping too as well in the USA. So are the refurbs. And as you would expect, there are alot of dyson DC07 refurbs. Carmine D.
Everyone but you said it was the normal course of business. If the DC07 is not popular how has it been a top seller for 6 years ? No other vacuum has as many positive consumer reviews. It has been the standard by which you have compared every vacuum for years.
Yes. Kapok, the most common thing vacuumed in our homes. No way is there a 6 year old vacuum on the floor or in the warehouse of a big box retailer. They would quit ordering after the first year and transfer them to stores where they are selling. Do you think the bought a 6 year supply? Do you think that Target would continue to sell the red DC07 if they had DC07's in stock for years? I suppose that you have inside info on WM being reluctant to sell Dyson.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #227 Jul 5, 2008 6:58 am |
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HS: Settle down. Have a cup of joe. Your facts are all jumbled up. DC07 Red at TARGET? Do you mean pink? I never said a 6 year supply. Are you delusional? I said after 6 years retailers still have purchases of DC-07's made years ago sitting unsold. Why? Dyson. MAP and MSRP have caused the sales to languish especially as new dyson models were launched. It's caught up with dyson and its retailers. Just like the pros said. Now these old dyson models and new models are being dumped by US retailers. Along with the refurbs. I have more information about Wal*Mart and dyson than most here and I've shared it many times. Save Matt who knows but can't say. And other retailers. Do you have any specific questions? Warning: The information doesn't paint a pretty picture for dyson ahead. US retailers are very worried about the political conditions in Malaysia. As well as economic conditions here. In fact, so is the US government about the former and should be about the latter. BTW, as far as dyson is a top seller? Dyson claims 10 percent of the USA new vacuum market in the USA with 2 MILLION. That's not top in the USA. Not even close. It had 8 percent in 2004. Not much increase. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #228 Jul 5, 2008 7:39 am |
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The fear on the part of the US government is that after 50 years the democracy in Malaysia is becoming unstable. Add to it the subsidies on gas getting lifted recently and the people may protest and riot in the streets. Not a good atmosphere for US and foreign companies there. Before you ask DC18, no I haven't been to Malaysia. But I know Malaysians here who go back and forth between here and there for many years. They're worried too just like the USA. Carmine D
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #229 Jul 5, 2008 7:43 am |
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HS: Settle down. Have a cup of joe. Your facts are all jumbled up. DC07 Red at TARGET? Do you mean pink? No. I mean RED. They began selling them in November 2006. It was exclusive to Target. You know the target logo is red and not yellow. I never said a 6 year supply. Are you delusional? Go back and read. You said: " There's just so many DC07 and 14-s that were made and sold to big box retailers that are still on shelves and warehouses unsold after 6 years ". Unsold after 6 years means still in the inventory. I said after 6 years retailers still have purchases of DC-07's made years ago sitting unsold. Why? Dyson. MAP and MSRP have caused the sales to languish especially as new dyson models were launched. It's caught up with dyson and its retailers. Just like the pros said. Now these old dyson models and new models are being dumped by US retailers. Along with the refurbs. You stated just this morning that price reduction was the normal course of business. Now you say they are just being dumped. I have seen discounts on all vacuum brands recently. Are all vacuums being dumped? I have more information about Wal*Mart and dyson than most here and I've shared it many times. Save Matt who knows but can't say. And other retailers. Do you have any specific questions? Warning: The information doesn't paint a pretty picture for dyson ahead. US retailers are very worried about the political conditions in Malaysia. As well as economic conditions here. In fact, so is the US government about the former and should be about the latter. You have lots of misleading information. No need to share more. BTW, as far as dyson is a top seller? Dyson claims 10 percent of the USA new vacuum market in the USA with 2 MILLION. That's not top in the USA. Not even close. It had 8 percent in 2004. Not much increase. Tell us what brand has more MS and a higher increase since 2004? Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #230 Jul 5, 2008 7:46 am |
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HS: What did I tell you? Have a cup of joe. You're salivating from the mouth and seeing red. A red DC07 from 2006? Are you sure? I'm not familiar with it. Can you describe it in more detail? Say comparing it to a DC14? The red one that was called the Drive exclusively for TARGET. [You'll have Matt mmc AirBlade scratching his head again]. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #231 Jul 5, 2008 8:09 am |
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HS: What did I tell you? Have a cup of joe. You're salivating from the mouth and seeing red. A red DC07 from 2006? Are you sure? I'm not familiar with it. Can you describe it in more detail? Say comparing it to a DC14? The red one that was called the Drive exclusively for TARGET. [You'll have Matt mmc AirBlade scratching his head again]. Carmine D.
You are not familiar with lots of things. You just make them up as you go. Just because you are not familiar does not mean it does not exist.
How much detail do you need about a DC07. Red is a color and you should be familiar with it.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #232 Jul 5, 2008 8:10 am |
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HS: Better go back and have another cup of joe. The first didn't do much good. A red DC07 at TARGET starting in 2006? That's news to me. Now you have Matt and I scratching our heads. Are you sure about being sure? Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #233 Jul 5, 2008 8:14 am |
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HS: Better go back and have another cup of joe. The first didn't do much good. A red DC07 at TARGET starting in 2006? That's news to me. Now you have Matt and I scratching our heads. Are you sure about being sure? Carmine D.
Try this genius.
http://www.target.com/Dyson-DC07-Vacuum-Tools-Red/dp/B000V5195O
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