Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

The LG Komprssor fails to live up to it's own hype.

http://www.current.com.au/2007/11/14/article/TNVOCYNOAX.html

 

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_43432.htm

 

LG video ad – http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1562197233155322442&q=lg+compressor&total=2&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

 

LG Komprssor dumping contents video - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4611387694393452897&q=lg+compressor&total=2&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

 

 

LG Kompressor - Australia…

http://www.lge.com.au/kompressor/

 

DIB

In regards to bagless vacuums being unhealthy for those with health problems the hazard goes further than just emptying them. As you vacuum, dust escapes from the seals, power cords etc. Spewing dust into the air in your home. Dyson included. Even if your vacuum has a bag and says HEPA filter, unless you have a "sealed system" like a Miele, Simplicity or a few Sanitaire models you will have air leakage.

Lucky1 wrote:
Dust escapes from the power cords, huh??!?!?!?  Where do you get your information?  I'm cracking up at that one.

I've said this before and I'll say it again.  It is the user who controls how much dust a bagless vacuum stirs up on emptying.  If it is emptied PROPERLY (meaning not just "dumping it"), the "dust cloud" will be drastically reduced if not eliminated altogether.  And yes, it can be done, the dust just has to be "poured" out, and if there's a trapdoor on the bin, you have to hold it and let it empty out slowly.  Dumping it out with force is just begging for a dust cloud, as well as the coughing and gagging that results ;-)

As you said, if it is not a self-sealing bag, a bagged machine has an equal opportunity to cause a dust cloud.  One of the reasons why I try to fold the fill tube or collar inward before putting it in the trash.

-MH

And the next way of bin emptying will even be easier,take the bin off your DYSON,drive down the highway, open your drivers window hit the trigger and get the drivers behind you all pissed off.

 MOLE

Lucky1 wrote:

It's been done and even better.   No need to dump the bin into a bag.  It's done automatically.  And called a vacuum cleaner with a bag.    Beats all the nonsense to avoid the hassle to dump and the residual dirt and dust clouds spewing into the air and all over.  And no pet hairs remaining stuck to the bin and bin components, like the shroud, after dumping.

I recall watching a dyson video at one of the large retailers showing the user dumping the dirt bin on a DC07.  Clever videoing.   Firstly, the bin was not full, not even half, not even one quarter.  Secondly, the user held the bin over the waste pail at a very small angle to allow the dirt to cascade slowly down the dyson dirt bin into the pail.  [A previous poster on this thread called this dumping method the "pouring" technique. ]  Finally, as soon as the dust cloud emerged from the pail [using the pouring technique], the video panned away to avoid the dirt/dust cloud.   I suppose you can have a "mistter" built into the pail which is activated by a dust sensor that will spray water over the contents to keep from spewing back into the air.    That's been done already too.  It's called a Rexair/Rainbow and makes mud.  Is it any wonder that CR and all doctors with patients who are sensitive to dirt/dust vehemently advise against bagless vacuums?  The answer is a resounding "No."

I recall seeing a dyson dirt bin dumped with no after effects when watching James Dyson do it.  He was demoing a brand new DC15 Ball at the NBC studios as part of a nationwide news report and coverage of the vacuum's launch.  The news studio office was brand new with new low pile carpet.  The DC15 picked up nothing after several passes by James.  When James removed the bin for dumping, NOTHING came out.   Not only was there no dust cloud, there was nothing period!   My sense is that dyson would have preferred if the dust cloud would have appeared, at least it would have given the viewers an indication that the DC15 picked up something.

Carmine D.

Lucky1 wrote:

If Dyson’s leak dust as you claim, then why do researchers give him the “Asthma Friendly” seal of approval?  Dyson's do not leak dust under normal circumstances.  I'm not linking in hopes to convert the vacuum hardcore types but I do encourage all folks who simply want to know about Dysons (before making a vacuum purchase) to look at the research.        DIB

 

• Canada:
• http://www.asthmafriendly.ca/canada_certification.html
• http://www.asthmafriendly.ca/canada_home.html
• http://www.asthmafriendly.ca/fileadmin/pdf/Press_Releases/Canada/afcertification-en-07.pdf
• United States:
• http://asthmaandallergyfriendly.com/vacuumcleaners.html
• http://www.aafa.org/display.cfm?id=10&sub=28&cont=386

• New Zealand:
• http://www.asthmanz.co.nz/dyson.php

Lucky1 wrote:

I vote for simply putting it in a filtrete bag to begin with.  Works fine and actually keeps the insides of the vacuum cleaner.

Vacuuman wrote:

I second that motion. 

I'm very impressed with the quality of the vacuum cleaner paper bags on the market today.  Originals and replacements.  I find from my own experience that vacuums with full-bag indicators allow more bag capacity to be used up before engaging when good quality filter paper bags are used in the vacuums.  And the vacuum maintains decent suction right up to the point of a new bag replacement.  Plus the prices of the filter bags are more reasonable and affordable than the bagless vacuum filters [IMHO], which are a rip-off.   

Carmine D.

If you hold a Laser Particle Counter near seals, cord winders etc on vacuums that are not sealed systems you will get various counts of particulant matter. FACT.

As for approvals and certifications by agencies we all know they can be distorted to fit the company needs. I have personally seen meter readings. If they are acceptable to you than fine. I however feel I HAVE to tell my customers the facts, pluses or minuses about machines. I don't know why Dyson is such a touchy subject for many. I read of lot's of happy customers and I have many people come into my shop telling me how much they hate their Dyson. Along with the panasonic I think they are the best of the bagless and in a good price point.

THEY LEAK DUST ... while vacuuming and disposing. Scoffing at or denying that fact is irrelevant. The real question is: Is that acceptable to you? If so, by all means buy a bagless.

I also think serviceability, availability of parts and can a local shop fix my vacuum or do I have to send it back to the manufacturer, should also be important when purchasing.