Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

The Dyson DC22 canister was very recently introduced in Japan. I have heard that this will make it to the US market in order to expand their canister range.

Key Features:

-Root Cyclone with Core Separation
-Dyson Digital Motor
-Stowaway Design
-Motorhead
-Pre filter rinse once every seven years

With it's large profile, the DDM and Level3 Root Cyclone (or 'core separation' - I like that better) it's surely destined to be on the US market in the near future.� Clearly, Dyson wants to step up to the mantle for the most powerful canister.

1) I wonder if it'll have a motorhead option or will the immense power be enough to spin the turbine head at a good speed? It looks like the wand has a flat part which could contain electrical contacts?

2) It looks like the pre-motor filter goes 'inside' the right-hand wheel? I wonder if this placement, the digital motor and the space saved will mean that the power cord on the winder drum can be longer than usual?

3) I like the improvement in usability for the power / cord winder button, it's very clear in their functions. It looks like the power button glows green in use and turns red if there's an obstruction.

4) It isn't obvious if this model has the phone-based diagnostic function or not?

You'll find many DC22 answers here - Dyson DC22 launch.�

The DC22 is certainly different and larger for Japan market!� Another spin on the Level 3 Root Cyclone technology.� Maintenance free too!��Looking at the outer bin and shroud there does seem a lot of space between the 2!� Could see some larger objects getting obstructed!�� Dyson seems to liked the cansiter market at the moment, with all the last few models being canisters DC19, 20, 21 and now the DC22!

Looking at the small cyclones on the top there must be about 14 or 15 of them.� To me this is a spin on the original DC08/DC08 TW that had 12 small cyclones!� Strange the�DC19/20 and DC21 motorhead went to 8 small cyclones then�looking at the new core separation/root cyclone on the DC22 they have revisted the 12 plus small cyclone but inclcuing�the larger inner cyclone (level 3!).� DC17 has 2 smaller inner cyclones for the level 3!

DC18

[DC22 series]
Product name Product Name		ddm motorhead Motorhead ddm	ddm turbinehead Ddm turbinehead	motorhead Motorhead	turbinehead Turbinehead
[daisondejitarumota] DAISONDEJITARUMOTA		��	��	- --	- --
Motor equipped head Motor head		��	- --	��	- --
Attachment nozzle Attached nozzle	Micro turbine head MAIKUROTABINHEDDO	��	��	��	- --
	Software brush tool SOFUTOBURA$#%*SURU	��	��	- --	- --
	[hutontsuru] FUTON tool	��	��	��	��
	Flexible opening nozzle Flexible nozzle openings	��	��	- --	- --
Manufacturer guarantee Manufacturer's warranty		5 years 5 years		2 years Two years
Substance size Body Size (Width ## depth ## height) (Width x depth x height)		397�~255�~292mm 397 x 255 x 292mm
Basic machine weight Body weight		4.8kg 4.8 kg 4.8 kg = 10.58 lb		4.9kg 4.9 kg 4.9 kg = 10.80 lb
Desired retail price Suggested retail price		Open price Open Offers
Shop front expectation price Over-the-counter expected price		Approximately 98,000 Yen 98,000 yen around	Approximately 94,000 Yen 94,000 yen around	Approximately 78,000 Yen 78,000 yen around	Approximately 76,000 Yen 76,000 yen around

Converted DC22 prices - yen to dollars and converted weights.� Any comments?

98,000.00 JPY = 850.86 USD

94,000.00 JPY = 816.22 USD

78,000.00 JPY = 677.33 USD

76,000.00 JPY = 659.96 USD

Now this is a machine I'm VERY anxious to see (and buy), even more so than I was with the DC21 Motorhead earlier this year.� That was one of the reasons why I bought one of those right when they were released exclusively to vac shops last April, before they debuted in big-box stores.�� First it was a canister with an electric P/N, now it's one (finally) with the "digital" motor!� I had heard about the Dyson digital motor technology a few years back, but always wondered when they were going to bring it to the US...this is great.� The DC22 is supposed to be released to the US in April of 2008.� The "digital" motor (that is nearly identical to the switched-reluctance motor in the current Rainbow E-series) runs the plastic suction fans at a speed of 100,000 RPM, delivering 165" of water lift.� Can't remember what I heard about the air watt rating, but I know it's high.� The Motorhead will be slightly narrower than the one on the DC21, but otherwise the same, and yes, the pre-motor filter is accessed via the right wheel.� The price I believe will be $899 retail, wholesale about $630.� I'll keep everyone posted with any more information I hear.� Definitely seems like it will be the most powerful machine on the market.

Hopefully with this one, the slight quirks of the DC21 will be eliminated.� I HOPE the power cord is longer, though the DC21's long hose made up for it.� Better small attachments wouldn't hurt, either, although it appears that's not the case.� I don't really care for that large wand setup either, it took me some getting used to but I still would rather have the hose detach further up.� My main gripe, though, would be that awful trap-door assembly on the bin.� That is the one thing I don't care for on bagless machines.� On the DC21; the bin and cyclone assembly separate, and I can empty it slowly...no dust cloud there.� Just means I'll have to close the trashcan quickly ;-)

I also heard some talk about a self-propelled upright, and a commercial upright, both based on the DC17.� Can anyone confirm this?

Do Dyson canisters have a small wheel(s) on the undercarriage so that you can drag it across the floor?

Dyson should really build a DC15 successor with the inclusion of the aggressive brush roll and refined updates of the DC17, and the DDM and Root Cyclone + Core Separator of the DC22. With the estimated retail price of the DC22 being $800-900 USDM, I can only imagine such a flagship upright being close to that price range as well. I believe the DDM is very small and lightweight, so that would shave some weight off a full size 'Ball' design. However, with a Dyson upright in the $800 range, I would love to see them experiment with more exotic lightweight materials like anodized aluminum, and carbon fiber. That would be great if they can get a DC15 successor with the weight on par with the DC18. Also, I would like to see Dyson offer at least three optional brush rolls with three different grades of bristle stiffness that would be suitable for a wide range of carpets from plush high pile to stiff looped berber carpets.

And again dyson's KEY FEATURES,OFFER NO BENEFITS TO THE CONSUMER.How many people care about a digital motor that cant be repaired?

mole

iMacDaddy wrote:
When you pull on the hose, it 'up ends' the machine so that it balances on the two side wheels. There also tends to be 3rd 'jockey wheel' on the front of the underside.

iMacDaddy wrote:

Reducing the weight on the DC15 would be a good step - Dyson uprights are surprisingly light once you remove the motor. Problem with 'the ball' on the DC15 is that it's arrangement with the ducting and the retractable undercarriage with all it's springs and washers makes it a complex machine to assemble and less durable than the 2nd version used in the DC18. Presumely, they only keep the DC15 Animal on sale because it can collect more per hair than the DC18. A choice of brushrolls would be possible with the new cog arrangement, but it would add a cost for a feature that I'd presume that 95% of consumers wouldn't care for.