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iMacDaddy
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Dyson DC22
Original Message Oct 30, 2007 9:38 am |
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retardturtle1
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #110 Jun 28, 2009 11:32 pm |
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Carmine,
He already did... although for some reason Dyson is not celebrating or marketing the DDM DC22 like it could/should.
The DDM DC22 (aka patented and exclusive only to Dyson) vacuum measures 10 (out of 10, Kirby-like) on the Baird meter and remains a 10 (no drop in suction, unlike a Kirby/or anyone) for 4, 5, 6, or 7 years. No sack-N-choke filter/manufacturer comes close! No other multi-cyclonic/manufacturer comes close!
Although you give much weight to the VDTA, the VDTA, not Dyson’s radical breakthroughs are DOA. My guess is... less than 1% of the U.S. population has ever heard of the VDTA and this is why it is not covered in the news (large or small).
DIB if the dealers dont carry the $700-800 dyson then who will? hard to almost impossible to find a dealer/svc center and no bbx retailer wants a bunch of $700-800 dysons that wont sell sitting on a shelf....most people dont forget and wont forget their dealings with dyson and its lack of dealer/svc center support...not to mention the money spent on the purchase of it..or the crap service you get from where it was bought...bbx retailer...once youve paid...you no longer matter.
not all dealers are alike..some really suck..crooks....and some really want that new customer to be a long time happy customer. his prices are way out of reach for most...not realistic for the current economy...dyson is a $200-250 bagless vac at best.,,, $300 for the ddm version....if his claims are true this time,...at those prices i can see alot more dealer support/cust loyalty to the brand.....dysons riding the wave with its flagship ddm dc-22......problem is that his flagship is the TITANIC.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #111 Jun 29, 2009 6:26 am |
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Carmine,
He already did... although for some reason Dyson is not celebrating or marketing the DDM DC22 like it could/should.
The DDM DC22 (aka patented and exclusive only to Dyson) vacuum measures 10 (out of 10, Kirby-like) on the Baird meter and remains a 10 (no drop in suction, unlike a Kirby/or anyone) for 4, 5, 6, or 7 years. No sack-N-choke filter/manufacturer comes close! No other multi-cyclonic/manufacturer comes close!
Although you give much weight to the VDTA, the VDTA, not Dyson’s radical breakthroughs are DOA. My guess is... less than 1% of the U.S. population has ever heard of the VDTA and this is why it is not covered in the news (large or small).
DIB
Hello DIB:
You, not me, heralded the DDM DC22 launch at the FEB 2009 VDTA here. Now you play it down. You, not me, boasted little filter maintenance/costs. Now you play it down. http://www.abbysguide.com/vacuum/discussions/36196-0-1.html Dyson and its supporters, like you, brag about air watts. Now you play it down. New dyson suction measure [really very old old vacuum school] is the baird meter. No proof. You compare a new dyson cann to a KIRBY upright which has no tools on board! ????? The only "dumbing down" here DIB is dyson and its cheering squadron. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #112 Jun 29, 2009 6:32 am |
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if the dealers dont carry the $700-800 dyson then who will? hard to almost impossible to find a dealer/svc center and no bbx retailer wants a bunch of $700-800 dysons that wont sell sitting on a shelf....most people dont forget and wont forget their dealings with dyson and its lack of dealer/svc center support...not to mention the money spent on the purchase of it..or the crap service you get from where it was bought...bbx retailer...once youve paid...you no longer matter.
not all dealers are alike..some really suck..crooks....and some really want that new customer to be a long time happy customer. his prices are way out of reach for most...not realistic for the current economy...dyson is a $200-250 bagless vac at best.,,, $300 for the ddm version....if his claims are true this time,...at those prices i can see alot more dealer support/cust loyalty to the brand.....dysons riding the wave with its flagship ddm dc-22......problem is that his flagship is the TITANIC.
Hello 'turtle1"
Agree. It's sunk in the US market. Likely, dyson reprices this DDM DC22 to $400/$500, retailers discount 20%/more and it's still a niche seller, at best. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #113 Jun 29, 2009 10:14 am |
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if the dealers dont carry the $700-800 dyson then who will? hard to almost impossible to find a dealer/svc center and no bbx retailer wants a bunch of $700-800 dysons that wont sell sitting on a shelf....most people dont forget and wont forget their dealings with dyson and its lack of dealer/svc center support...not to mention the money spent on the purchase of it..or the crap service you get from where it was bought...bbx retailer...once youve paid...you no longer matter.
not all dealers are alike..some really suck..crooks....and some really want that new customer to be a long time happy customer. his prices are way out of reach for most...not realistic for the current economy...dyson is a $200-250 bagless vac at best.,,, $300 for the ddm version....if his claims are true this time,...at those prices i can see alot more dealer support/cust loyalty to the brand.....dysons riding the wave with its flagship ddm dc-22......problem is that his flagship is the TITANIC. Hoover was like the famous battle ship Bismark. We know who sunk her don't we?
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retardturtle1
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #114 Jun 29, 2009 1:39 pm |
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Hoover was like the famous battle ship Bismark. We know who sunk her don't we? you can take the new DDM CAN " dysons finest vac to date..vs a W/TNL bagless can ..run it thru any and all tests ..post results side by side ....along with price so the public can see first hand and up close what they really get for their money.... it will show a very durable $180 hvr meet and out perform the high dollar dyson all day long...and will outsell the dyson all day long by a vast majority ...just like in years past....and save at least $500....so the few that still bought the dyson got what for the the $500?
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #115 Jun 29, 2009 2:35 pm |
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you can take the new DDM CAN " dysons finest vac to date..vs a W/TNL bagless can ..run it thru any and all tests ..post results side by side ....along with price so the public can see first hand and up close what they really get for their money.... it will show a very durable $180 hvr meet and out perform the high dollar dyson all day long...and will outsell the dyson all day long by a vast majority ...just like in years past....and save at least $500....so the few that still bought the dyson got what for the the $500?
Hi 'Turtle1"
I agree. Careful .........one of us will be attacked for thinking like the other! OMG!!! Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #116 Jun 29, 2009 3:46 pm |
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Hi 'Turtle1" I agree. Careful .........one of us will be attacked for thinking like the other! OMG!!! Carmine D. HI CARMINE hahaha....i just go by customer feed back...what i see/hear at the shop..torture testing ..so it is what it is. i mean were not the ones who are charging $800 for a $300 vacuum..[attack them]...that was bested by a tempo...
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #117 Jun 30, 2009 7:06 am |
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HI CARMINE hahaha....i just go by customer feed back...what i see/hear at the shop..torture testing ..so it is what it is. i mean were not the ones who are charging $800 for a $300 vacuum..[attack them]...that was bested by a tempo...
Hello 'turtle1'
Dyson product prices are and will continue their downward trends. Once very protective of MAP [broke off contract with Wal*Mart for lowering DC07 prices to $309 in 2005], dyson allows all big box retail stores to advertise and sell 20-30 percent below MSRP now-a-days. Dyson does it on its own Web site [27 percent]. The downward spiraling of dyson prices in the USA by BBS is well underway. No great shakes. As you say, dysons are $200-$300 vacuums tops. And even then, there are vacuums under $100 that outperform. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
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Re: Dyson DC22
Reply #118 Jun 30, 2009 2:27 pm |
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Hello 'turtle1' Dyson product prices are and will continue their downward trends. Once very protective of MAP [broke off contract with Wal*Mart for lowering DC07 prices to $309 in 2005], dyson allows all big box retail stores to advertise and sell 20-30 percent below MSRP now-a-days. Dyson does it on its own Web site [27 percent]. The downward spiraling of dyson prices in the USA by BBS is well underway. No great shakes. As you say, dysons are $200-$300 vacuums tops. And even then, there are vacuums under $100 that outperform. Carmine D. hi carmine i couldnt agree more [tempo] . and all the people who once bought dysons are seeing thru all the hype and clever advertising realizing that a $100 vacuum will outperform what they were convinced was the best....has turned into a name [dyson] that is more trouble to own and keep up than its worth....if he wants to unload that inventory he has no choice but to keep them prices coming way down....and even at $200 hes still getting outperformed by a far less expensive model...no matter what type upright/can dyson has ,,the compitition has a far less expensive model that will outperfom it. .. customers will buy them up......and feel good abt it. $300..at best? for now yes...but at that price point the compitition will only get worse for dyson,,as the comp will also drop price...like i said
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